This is my reply to the JW who began writing me after I posted a comment on the MSN story.
It's a progression of this thread . Since he called me an "imbecile" I decided not to hold back with him.
This should get his attention:
**************************************************************************************************************** Steve, Steve, Steve, Where does one start with you? In my last reply I mentioned a couple of things that obviously rattled your cage. It's apparently difficult for you to admit mistakes when confronted with them, especially when they are reinforced by a dubious religious organization that insists you have "the truth". Many people come to grips with their misconceptions when they enter adulthood, as we can see with you however, this epiphany can be suppressed. I know you've mustered all your abilities while employing your "utmost logic and reasoning". The fact that this "utmost" effort has failed you might be a concern for a normal person. In fact a normal person might take an introspective look at what caused them to be so far from reality. But this is not for you, I'm quite confident. A random Sampling of your "utmost logic and reasoning": Jehovah's Witnesses You first said this: "After all he did that at the flood. He did that when the Israelites entered Canaan. He had the bad people destroyed. He destroyed those who were not Jehovah's Witnesses." You said: No, Jehovah's Witnesses didn't make that book. There were no Jehovah's Witnesses until 1931. You later said: What 125 years history? That is only the modern day revival. The history started in 33 CE and subsided when the apostles died as Jesus predicted in Matt 13 and then was revived in the last days as Jesus predicted. **** It seems you can't decide when "Jehovah's Witnesses" began. At first you refer the Israelites and Noah and his family as "Jehovah's Witnesses" some thousands of years ago. But then you turn around and say there were no "Jehovah's Witnesses" until after 1931. But then you also say that Jehovah's Witnesses are only a "Modern Day revival", "started in 33 CE". Interesting concept. That sure is some powerful logic. Now on to this gem: Screaming Rape "If a women does not scream *while she is being raped,* she is guilty of fornication!! Watchtower 1964 January 15 pp.63-4" Steve, the 'master' of logic and reason, weighs in: "That is true and I agree." **** At least the Watchtower Society had the sense of decency to change this teaching (Awake! 1984 June 8 p.28) You however, you STILL think it's appropriate. Wow Steve, you truly are a freak. Another treat: Alternative Military Service (a classic doctrinal flip-flop for JW's) I said: "People have *died* resisting even "alternative" military service only to have that rule reversed years later." Steve, the 'master' of logic and reason, replies: "That is good as that shows faith and obedience to God. But it was not changed. It said that they could serve their term in the compulsory service in a non-military manner that does not violate neutrality. That did not change." **** Uhm.... yes it did, as you'll soon see. Alternative Service OK:
"If, therefore we were drafted, and if the government refused to accept our conscientious scruples against warfare ... we should request to be assigned ... to some other non-combatant place of usefulness... " - The Watchtower 1898 July 1 p. 2332 Alternative Service NOT OK: The Witnesses explained that it is not that they are opposed to civil service as such, but rather, it is a matter of strict neutrality. Therefore any work that is merely a substitute for military service would be unacceptable to Jehovah’s Witnesses. - Awake! 1974 December 8 p. 23 Alternative Service OK once again: "What, though, if the State requires a Christian for a period of time to perform civilian service that is a part of national service under a civilian administration? Here again, Christians must make their own decisions based on an informed conscience… Appointed elders and others should fully respect the conscience of the brother and continue to regard him as a Christian in good standing. - The Watchtower 1996 May 1 p. 20.
**** It looks like that "New light" is flickering. Maybe you guys need a new bulb? Wal-Mart has a sale on those long-lasting fluorescent ones ya know. Organ Transplants Steve Said: "That was not changed. People died getting organ transplants until 1983
when the drug was made to protect the body from fighting the new organs. So it was
not safe prior to then as the Watchtower told of it not being safe. They used Biblical
reasoning and not medical reasoning, but the result was the same that people were saved." Here's what the Watchtower actually said: "No! That would be cannibalism, a practice abhorrent to all civilized people.Jehovah God did not grant permission for humans to try to perpetuate their lives by cannibalistically taking into their bodies human flesh, whether chewed or in the form of whole organs or body parts taken from others.... " - Watchtower 1967 November 15 pp.702-4 Then they reversed it here: [Organ Transplants] are a matter for conscientious decision by each one of Jehovah's Witnesses...there is no Biblical command pointedly forbidding the taking in of other human tissue.- Watchtower 1980 March 15 p.31 **** Sorry Steve, the position HAS changed. And it has nothing to do with you cockamamie idea about some drug treatment. It looks like you've been caught pulling that one out of you ass. Did you "utmost logic and reasoning" produce that one too - or do you have a Watchtower reference to back up your quackery? Now I'm left trying to figure out who are the bigger dumb-asses, you or the Society? And as for those Watchtower Publications where you say "this is not from Jehovah's Witnesses is it?" You're just plain stupid here, so desperate to fend off criticism, that you dispel even your own belief system when conveinient. It's not surprising. After-all this brand of "utmost logic and reasoning" is essential for any respectable crack-pot. Steve: "You wicked and foolish imbecile. How dare you address me with such disrespect!" **** Gee Steve, it sounds like you consider yourself above criticism? What, do you expect "she-bears" to come hunt me down? The Watchtower Society might refer to you as a "glorious one" for joining their cult, however, don't try to take that shit to anyone on the outside, for it's plain for all to see......you my friend, are are delusional. You expect your God to wipe out all of humanity for failing to believe in your zany, flip-floppin', doomsday cult. As illustrated in this email, you are not only ingorant about what you religion teaches, but you fabricate stories when needed. I'm starting to see why the Watchtower Society looks down on education. After-all how can they expect to keep psycho-idiots like yourself "in" if you actually come to learn something? They've turned you into a sad excuse for a human who righteously accepts genocide and has no problem altering reality. I have nothing against fantasy Steve. However, eventually most people wake up. It's been fun Steve. A little creepy, but fun none-the-less.