Iyad Allawi

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  • searcher
    searcher

    Iyad Allawi, the man who has made claims about how things are as bad or worse in Iraq now as they were under Saddam Hussein, is a memebr of the group who provided intelligence about WOMD to MI6 before the war.

    As it is now claimed by many that these so called WOMD never existed, his being involved with the intelligence community prior to the war, and claiming that such weapons existed, must therefore imply his ulterior motives to his latest claims.

    Claims which I believe should examined very carefully.

    After all, if WOMD never existed, and he claimed they did, what was his motive for saying so, and what are his motives now?

    Iyad Allawi

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    Dr. Iyad Allawi (Arabic: ???? ????? ) (born 1945) is an Iraqi politician, and was the interim Prime Minister of Iraq prior to Iraq's 2005 legislative elections. A prominent Iraqi-British neurosurgeon and Iraqi exile political activist, the politically secular Shia Muslim became a member of the Iraq Interim Governing Council, which was established by U.S.-led coalition authorities following the 2003 invasion of Iraq. He became Iraq's first head of government since Saddam Hussein when the council dissolved on June 1, 2004 and named him Prime Minister of the Iraqi Interim Government. His term as Prime Minister ended on April 7, 2005, after the selection of Islamic Dawa Party leader Ibrahim al-Jaafari by the newly-elected transitional Iraqi National Assembly.

    He continues to lead his Iraqi National Accord's party in the new Assembly, though its support was weak during legislative elections, and only polled 14 per cent of the vote.

    A former Ba'athist, Allawi set up the Iraqi National Accord, which carried out bombings in Saddam Hussein's Iraq and is today an active political party. In the lead up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq the INA provided intelligence about alleged weapons of mass destruction to MI6. Allawi has lived about half of his life in the UK and retains British citizenship. His wife and children still live in Britain for their security. He survived an assassination attempt on 20th of April 2005.

    Allawi's name is sometimes rendered as Ayad Allawi.

  • Simon
    Simon

    So basically, you admit that America was played for a fool ?

    Took you quite a while to finally see the truth ...

  • searcher
    searcher

    Bush et al believed this man when he said that Iraq had WOMD that could be deployed in 45 minutes. You and others believe this man that things are worse now in Iraq than under Saddam Hussein. If Bush et al were/are fools for believing this man.....................I leave you to fill in the blanks.

  • Simon
    Simon

    I think the person behind the 45 minute claim was Ahmed Chalabi. They are related by marriage.

    Bush et al believed this man when he said that Iraq had WOMD that could be deployed in 45 minutes. You and others believe this man that things are worse now in Iraq than under Saddam Hussein. If Bush et al were/are fools for believing this man.....................I leave you to fill in the blanks.

    What a black and white, simplistic world you live in. If someone lied about one thing then we have to believe the exact opposite of whatever else they say do we?

    I agree that he lack credibility and has ulterior motives for his claims but the facts are simple and indisputable:

    • No WoMDs were found in Iraq
    • Iraq is NOT going well, is in a mess and it is extremely likely that more have now died because of "us" than died because of Saddam.

    BTW: Do you really think that Bush et al believed the 45 minute claim ... or simply picked at whatever evidence they could get to conduct an illegal war?

  • gumby
    gumby
    So basically, you admit that America was played for a fool ?

    America (rather the bush administration) wasn't played for a fool....it WAS a fool!

    Taking one mans word and acting upon it in the degree they acted was foolish.

    Gumby

  • upside/down
    upside/down

    Correction....America's POLITICIANS (all of 'em) were played for fools....

    So...whats new or news worth bout dat?

    u/d(of the boys (good ol boys) will be boys class)

  • searcher
    searcher
    If someone lied about one thing then we have to believe the exact opposite of whatever else they say do we?

    Those are your words, not mine.

    But dont 'some' believe that about Bush?

    As quoted in the article above,

    A former Ba'athist, Allawi set up the Iraqi National Accord, which carried out bombings in Saddam Hussein's Iraq and is today an active political party. In the lead up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq the INA provided intelligence about alleged weapons of mass destruction to MI6.

    So if Allawi is the head of the Iraqi National Accord, he has to take the blame for what they say/do, the same as some insist that Bush has to take the blame for his administrations percieved errors.

    As such, he is a proven liar, and IMO a proven liar must be treated with suspicion on anything he subsequently says.(But dont 'some' believe that about Bush?)

    Iraq MAY be worse now than before, I just want more than the word of such a man as Allawi, a man who obviously has an agenda, shown by his previous actions/words.

  • searcher
    searcher
    BTW: Do you really think that Bush et al believed the 45 minute claim ... or simply picked at whatever evidence they could get to conduct an illegal war?

    I have no idea, either is possible.

  • CruithneLaLuna
    CruithneLaLuna

    I don't see it, at all, as a case of American politicians being made fools of. Rather, the ruling clique have made fools of the electorate and the American people as a whole - but that is something that has been going on for a very long time, in fact (putting on what may look to others like my Darkly Cynical hat) it is what national politics are mostly based on. It is how those who determine what should happen get the masses to support it/them, or at least tolerate their shenanigans long enough for them to perpetrate them.

    "Good evening, sir or madam. How may I stimulate your thinking?"

    George

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