by lime05 6 Replies latest jw friends
Satan was created as a righteous angel, "he did not stand fast in the truth". He is called "Satan," or "resister," because he has opposed and resisted Jehovah.
so whos to say the perfect humans in paradise wont "oppose" or "resist" Jehovah after Christs Thousand Year Reign. after all their is no jw teaching which says the devil was decieved by anyone infact it was down to greed. Satan nurtured this greedy desire until it became fertile and gave birth to sin - James 1:14,15.
satan represents human's desire for godliness (or just to be themselves, and not be ashamed of it). the abrahamic religions have told people that they are worthless sinful humans for millenia.
satan, even in modern satanism, invites people to become as gods.
satan, as a mythological figure, got a bad rap, for sure. i don't recall him ever lying or killing anyone, especially in comparission to god...
so, if there ever was a paradise, it would be much like the world is now. actually, as far as i am concerned, the earth already is a paradise.
so, if there ever was a paradise, it would be much like the world is now. actually, as far as i am concerned, the earth already is a paradise.
Correct. if a perfect angel created by Jehovah can turn evil through its 'own desires' and a perfect man and woman can obey a serpent instead of their God it makes the organizations false hope of Jehovahs 'new kingdom' through applying the 'accurate' knowledge of God seem like a twisted wind up.
I always understood that you would just get zapped if you went ape in the paradise new earth. Satan and all his followers were to be killed at the end of the 1000 years of the new earth and then everyone that survived would have been tested and God would have cleaned up all his mistakes.
Ken P.
so whos to say the perfect humans in paradise wont "oppose" or "resist" Jehovah after Christs Thousand Year Reign.
The Watchtower has never said there will not be opposers who prove unrightous in the new System.
They HAVE said that there would evidently be a time when those who have been tried and tested at the end of the thousand years who would in Jehovahs due time ( when he knows their integrity is solid) .. be written in the book of life. But.....they ALSO say that if any turn wayward AFTER Satan has been destroyed that Jehovah would exterminate them individually. Jehovah will not allow AGAIN however, a corruption of his paradise. So...on one hand they say some can still turn bad after the 1000 years, ....and on the other hand say there will those who'll be written in the book of life .
Different than christianity........dubs NEVER have a solid hope as they are ALWAYS suseptable to a fall with death in veiw
Gumby
....ever notice that sense the beginning of time, creation of earth, creation of man, creation of animals, jehovah has constantly been "fixn'" his mistakes? time after time. makes one wonder, if jah is perfect, his angels were perfect, mankind "was" perfect, what exactly is "perfect?"
.... would "attaining perfection" be something any better than what we have right now ????
magoo
The Watchtower has never said there will not be opposers who prove unrightous in the new System.
Crime, violence, and wickedness will be gone forever. "Evildoers themselves will be cut off ... Just a little while longer, and the wicked one will be no more ... He will not be. But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth." (Psalm 37:9-11)
All who oppose God's Kingdom and who are part of Satan's wicked system will be eliminated. Only those loyal to Jehovah will survive. -Revelation 7:9, 14; 19:11-21.
Perfection! What will it mean? It will mean a return to life the way Adam and Eve enjoyed it before they sinned against Jehovah God. Physically, mentally, emotionally, morally, spiritually -in every way imaginable - perfect humans will fully meet God's standards.
Promises such as 'wickedness will be gone forever' and 'the wicked one will be no more' certainly sounds like their i mplying Jesus will only r esurrect those who are rightous in this 'wicked system' then during the thousand year reign, all sin will be removed and mankind will be raised to perfection.-1 John 2:2; Revelation 21:1-4.
"There is no man righteous in the earth that keeps doing good and does not sin." (Ecclesiastes 7:20)
So as all sin will be removed all the people will not sin therefore they will be righteous and keep doing good.
As Jehovah is perfect he must have perfect standards if perfect humans will fully meet God's standards im sure one of God's standards is for no one to oppose him. but im sure the dubs will have some excuse its down to humans 'free will', etc..
