Pioneering is Dying, again

by metatron 8 Replies latest jw friends

  • metatron
    metatron

    April regular pioneers 88,735
    May regular pioneers 86,515 (with 939,078 publishers)

    June regular pioneers 85,367 (with 925,216 publishers)

    All figures U.S.A.

    The KM now has a front page segment "What To Say About
    the Magazines" - really weak! Maybe they'll go back to
    'testimony' cards, at this rate!

    metatron

  • hawkaw
    hawkaw

    Hello Metatron,

    It is so good to see your posts.

    Question. A lot of people on this board tell me that the numbers decrease in the summer and then get boosted again later.

    How does this decrease compare to previous years?

    Look forward to your response.

    hawk

  • nytelecom1
    nytelecom1

    come on..when was the last time you saw an interesting
    article in the km

    articles like "Effective use of the Awake'
    and "Brochures that save lives" dont cut it anymore

    lets all be glad they did away with the demonstrations
    that were the exact same thing week after week

  • RunningMan
    RunningMan

    The real key to making this type of comparison is to use the
    same month from two different years. I suspect that even
    using this method, there is still a decrease. In Canada, there
    was a decrease between April 2000 and April 2001.

    It is also interesting to note that a couple of years ago, the
    required monthly hours for pioneers dropped by 10. The
    intention was to make it easier for more people to pioneer.
    Well, guess what? The numbers went down anyway. So,
    the society was hit with a decrease in pioneers, and an 11%
    reduction in hours per person at the same time. Nice strategy.

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost

    Strategy? Goodness, didn't you know that only business organisations have strategies? The WT is Jehovah's earthly organisation, didn't you know that?

    The TRUTH is that the hours were reduced as a loving act toward them by a loving organisation. Now, you really knew that, didn't you?

    Cheers,
    Ozzie

    "Evil is the absence of empathy"
    Movie (2000), Nuremberg

  • Moxy
    Moxy
    It is also interesting to note that a couple of years ago, the
    required monthly hours for pioneers dropped by 10. The
    intention was to make it easier for more people to pioneer.
    Well, guess what? The numbers went down anyway. So,
    the society was hit with a decrease in pioneers, and an 11%
    reduction in hours per person at the same time. Nice strategy.

    oops, think you meant 70 right. there was a temporary boost in RP & AP numbers at the time (jan 99) which met with much fanfare. but i think the downwards trend has evened out now. hours continued to drop at an amazingly even rate despite the change.

    i think it was less of a 'strategy' than a 'quick - what the hell should we do?' the unstated buffer between the monthly quota and the yearly quota was removed (ie 1000 / 12 = 83.3 not 90) so that pioneers could no longer do the monthly numbers and end up ahead in summer for vacation time. it seemed like there might be some underlying reason for this at the time but now i think this simply didnt occur to the people making the change. same thing with the fact that the change was made in january which is the MIDDLE of the service year. so we were all like, 'well, what do we need for this year?' some elders were doing all kinds of clever math trying to figure out how to divide up the two systems over the 98-99 service year until clarification came which sounded kinda like, 'look, just do the 840.' as though again, it simply hadnt occured to anyone that there might be confusion.

    mox

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost

    Moxy,

    I wonder if anyone asked Why?

    It all seems so artificial to me. Why not make it 2,000 hours or 500 hours.

    What on earth has it got to do with making disciples?

    Cheers,
    Ozzie

    "Evil is the absence of empathy"
    Movie (2000), Nuremberg

  • taughtbyJehovah
    taughtbyJehovah

    Friend,

    The watchtower,as compiled and edited at present, is such an
    abomination to the "wisdom from above", that Jehovah generously
    will share with those who seek out such knowledge. I dare to say
    pointedly that the articles are simply culled from previous WT
    issues and then a 6th grader is assigned the now common,"inane"
    interjections of supposed inspired commentary. The watchtower at
    least could begin by reformatting the front page and switching
    the large type of watchtower, with the current type and position of Jehovah's name. I will use caveman.com to try and illustrate.
    announcing
    JEHOVAH's
    KINGDOM!
    the watchtower

    The preaching work is not long for this system of things.
    The governing body, with all due respect to the true slave of
    a now gone era, hardly can be said to be "taking the lead", in
    shepherding the flock of Jehovah. This is clearly evident in
    the woefully lacking information which should pertain to today
    and the progressive manner that Jehovah wants to be reflected
    with regards to REAL LIFE EVERYDAY ISSUES and the congregation
    being allowed to openly participate in a casual and yet very
    open forum. Free moral beings are how Jehovah created us and
    honest,candid and lively discussions would serve far better to
    keep the body of members "warm". If nothing else, a reformatted
    front page would at least direct the PRAISE AND ATTENTION THAT
    IS ABSOLUTELY FOR JEHOVAH, AND HIM ONLY!!! The governing body is
    fat and lacking in men who are capable of spiritually accepting
    new information from our lord and savior jesus christ.Jehovah's
    people should be in the VANGUARD of true godly knowledge and of
    it's proper dispersal to the friends and all mankind. So many
    lost,hurting and confused sheep are out here and Jehovah is very
    concerned and I hope I am inspired when I say he is going to do
    something to "shake up" the organization very soon.Reformed and
    revitalized is not saying enough about what changes are obviously
    needed and I am certain, would be welcomed by all the flock on
    His earth. That front page redesign of mine(which is copyrighted
    as of this second) lol, is a must do for the sleeping body that
    is in New York. That gilead 58th grad class and the benign themes
    broached at the ceremony had nothing to encourage or prepare me
    in any way for WHAT IS COMING UPON US ALL,AND SOON !! Peace and
    love to all.

  • blondie
    blondie

    The decline of pioneering:

    1. Fewer young ones staying in the organization
    2. The ones who do go to school or get married or get a FT job
    3. See drop in Bethel applicants
    4. No war in world creating a military draft to get out of by pioneering
    5. Parents and elders not promoting FT service by example
    6. Apathy in the territory
    7. Apathy and boredom among those in KH
    Boredom...sometimes the only people you talk to are in the car group (which happens when you only go out during the weekdays)
    8. No discernible end in sight...1984 nothing, 1994 nothing, 1995 generation rug is pulled out from under the publishers, sheep and goats won't be separated until after great tribulation starts so a separating work is not really be done now....

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