President Bush and his disclosure headace.

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  • Okidok
    Okidok

    On August 18, 22 days into her hunger strike, Lara announced on
    the live Ground Zero show (1080KOTK - Portland) that she will
    take her Presidential hunger strike to Washington, D.C. and the
    White House, as a daily reminder to President Bush.

    "I am asking President Bush to fulfill his campaign promise, and
    make public information on U.S. government involvement with
    Extraterrestrial craft, technologies, and civilizations by
    supporting the Disclosure witnesses who are ready to testify
    before the U.S. Congress about their extensive knowledge of the
    Extraterrestrial presence," says Johnstone.

    Johnstone is referring to the approximately 100 military and
    corporate Disclosure witnesses who have volunteered videotaped
    testimony about UFOs and Extraterrestrials. Many of these
    witnesses are subject to security oaths, and would require
    Presidential or Congressional immunity to testify in public
    before the U.S. Congress.

    According a letter Lara wrote to her Congresswoman, Congressional
    Black Caucus member Barbara Lee (D - Oakland, CA.), "These
    numerous recorded witnesses constitute only a small portion of a
    vast pool of identified present of former military, intelligence,
    corporate, aviator, flight control, law enforcement officers,
    scientists and other witnesses, who will come forward when
    subpoenaed to testify at Congressional Hearings. Without a grant
    of immunity releasing them from their security oaths, many such
    unimpeachable witnesses fear to speak out."

    Ms. Johnstone used to work for Peggy Noonan, the former
    speechwriter to Presidents Ronald Reagan and George Bush, Sr. In
    writing President George W. Bush on July 26, she said, "I recall
    she wrote a speech for your father about a 'thousand points of
    light'. Can we shed a thousand points of light in this world? If
    so, we need to open up the dark secrets that keep us in fear from
    each other. It won't be easy, and will take a huge amount of
    courage, honesty, responsibility and forgiveness, from all six
    billion of us."

    About George W. Bush, the 35 year-old Johnstone says, "Now, I am
    not particularly a fan of Mr. Bush, however, the more I think
    about what he said to Mr. Huffer (twice) I am convinced that he
    wants to tell the people the truth!"

    "But if those who want him to tell the truth, they are now going
    to have to get off their armchairs and let him know!" Johnstone
    adds.

    Johnstone is referring to statements by then Governor George Bush
    to former U.S. Army Security Agency member Charles Huffer during
    a 2000 presidential campaign stop. Huffer asked both Governor
    Bush and Dick Cheney, who was also present, as to whether they
    would release government secrets regarding UFOs and
    Extraterrestrials if elected. This reporter witnessed that
    exchange, as broadcast by CNN.

    On July 28, 2000, Huffer approached Governor Bush and Mr. Cheney
    in Springdale, Ark. and asked Bush, "would [you] finally tell us
    what is going on with UFOs?" Governor Bush replied, "Sure I
    will." The question and Bush's answer were recorded by ABC NEWS
    and broadcast on Nightline and more completely on CNN the next
    day. On July 29, the Washington Post published part of an
    interview with Charles Huffer about the exchange.

    On the videotape, Mr. Bush is clearly seen stating that release
    of the UFO information would be the first thing he would do,
    while pointing to Mr. Cheney. Later, when asked by Huffer if he
    would really release the UFO materials, Governor Bush replied,
    "Yes sir," a reply that Huffer states he also has on audiotape.

    Neither Mr. Bush nor Mr. Cheney have responded directly to Mr.
    Huffer's follow-up on their campaign promise. In a letter to
    Charles Huffer dated July 16, 2001, Vice President Cheney's
    office stated they were referring all questions in the matter to
    NASA. NASA in turn responded to Mr. Huffer in an August 1, 2001
    letter, stating, "NASA has no program for the investigation of
    UFOs, nor does the Agency have any factual evidence of the
    existence of the existence of intelligent extraterrestrial life."

    Lara's hunger strike first began, reporter Grant Cameron writes,
    after " July 26, 2001, [when] Lara Johnstone wrote a letter to
    President George Bush in support of over 100 Extraterrestrial
    Disclosure Witnesses who had come forward to tell of their
    involvement in the cover-up of the UFO story by the government.
    Lara stated in her letter that she would support her request for
    disclosure with a hunger strike. Now, more than three weeks later
    there is still no reply from President Bush, or any one else at
    the White House. There is not even an acknowledgment that the
    letter arrived."

    The non-profit Disclosure Project on May 9, 2001 held a National
    Press Club conference in Washington, DC to present live testimony
    from 20 high-level military and corporate witnesses to
    Extraterrestrial phenomena. According to the Disclosure Project,
    " The event was live webcast, and at 9 a.m. over 250,000 people
    were waiting on-line for the press conference to begin. The next
    biggest webcast event at the National Press Club was less than
    25,000. The first hour of the conference was 'electronically
    jammed' according to the president of ConnectLive, the company
    that webcasts all National Press Club events."

    On Monday, August 13, Lara took her hunger strike to the steps of
    the federal courthouse in Oakland, to petition her Congresswoman,
    Barbara Lee to write a letter to President Bush sharing Lara’s
    request for Extraterrestrial Disclosure.

    In her hand-delivered letter to Congresswoman Lee, Lara states,
    "As you know, the recorded testimony of scores of military,
    government and other witnesses to Unidentified Flying Objects and
    Extraterrestrial events and projects is strong evidence of the
    existence of an UFO/Extraterrestrial presence on and around
    Earth. This recorded testimony consists of dozens of first-hand,
    often top-secret witnesses to UFO and Extraterrestrial events,
    internal UFO-related government projects and covert activities,
    space-based weapons programs and covert, reverse-engineered
    energy and propulsion system projects. The technologies that are
    of an Extraterrestrial origin, when publicly released within a
    planned transition period, will provide solutions to global
    environmental and security challenges."

    Johnstone requested Congresswoman Lee to support a ban on
    space-based weapons. "Our generation of voters and leaders are
    responsible for this once in a lifetime decision -- to ban
    space-based weapons so that we will be permitted to join the
    peaceful travelers in the universe," Lara wrote.

    On July 26, Congressman Dennis J. Kucinich (D.-Cleveland)
    announced his intention to introduce legislation banning
    space-based weapons. "The time has come to ban the further
    weaponization of space," Congressman Kucinich said. "We must work
    toward the elimination of all nuclear weapons, and an end to
    policies which cause this country to move toward the
    weaponization of space. I was pleased with the recent news from
    our neighbor to the north that Canada is ready to join an
    international effort to prohibit weapons in space. It is time for
    the United States to take the lead and end the weaponization of
    space."

    Lara's letter to Congreewoman Lee continues, "The legislation to
    ban space-based weapons will prohibit acts of war against
    Extraterrestrial civilizations, which have proven to be concerned
    about nuclear and weapons industry, but also have proven they are
    not to be hostile. The comprehensive legislation will transform
    the terrestrial war industry into a world cooperative military
    (without space weapons), civil, and commercial space industry.
    This will provide unprecedented benefits and opportunities to all
    on Earth and in space."

    Lara's involvement with the Extraterrestrial issue began,
    according to reporter Grant Cameron, on July 22, 2001, "when Dr.
    Steven Greer arrived in San Francisco to make a presentation of
    his traveling Disclosure Project. The event was held at the huge
    Masonic Auditorium. Among the 2,000 people in the audience was a
    woman by the name of Lara Johnstone.

    "Lara was a bit skeptical of the whole extraterrestrial thing,"
    writes Cameron. "She had no background in Ufology. She had never
    had a sighting. A friend sent her an e-mail about the local
    Disclosure Event. Lara visited the Disclosure web site on the
    Internet. After reading the objective she decided to attend. "I
    never before really 'believed'," Lara wrote to President George
    Bush, "in ‘verifiable evidence' of extraterrestrial visits." The
    Disclosure event turned out to be a "reality check" for Lara.

    "During the event the two hour Disclosure testimony videotape was
    shown," Cameron states, "This tape, produced by the Disclosure
    project, contains highlights of over 100 hours of testimony that
    had been collected from interviews with dozens of U.S.
    Government, industrial, and military witnesses to UFO and
    extraterrestrial events and secret 'black-ops' projects.

    "Lara decided action was necessary," Cameron states. "She chose a
    form of protest that she was familiar with - a hunger strike. In
    late 2000 Lara had used this protest method successfully against
    the state of California. Lara described her first hunger strike
    protest, 'I went on a hunger strike was against the CA Department
    of Corrections and Gov. Gray Davis. After 25 days, they bowed,
    admitted -- in writing -- what I had alleged, and what they had
    'said', but not in writing. Before the press conference, the
    department head of all of California's prisons came up to me and
    went ballistic. He started screaming 'Who do you think you are,
    'How dare you?' and on and on! He did not like being called up by
    the South African media, asked to answer very difficult questions
    regarding how he runs his prisons!'" The 35 year-old Johnstone,
    who lives in Oakland, Ca. Is originally from South Africa.

    Asked if the hunger strike had affected her medically, Johnstone
    stated during the KOTK program, "I am carrying out this hunger
    strike with an open mind, and on a day-to-day basis," Johnstone
    stated during the KOTK program, which included a public appeal
    for medical personnel to monitor her daily progress.

    Lara Johnstone is clear that she wants to provide President
    George W. Bush with a clear choice about releasing UFO and
    Extraterrestrial information. " If we choose to fight, bicker,
    find blame and pre-judge, or whatever, well we will only get more
    of the same and get nowhere very fast!" she said. "We -- as
    George Bush does -- have a choice! We can take it screaming at
    him, and be sure he is not going to have the support to tell the
    truth, or we can support him, and be prepared to stand committed
    to be responsible for helping people understand!"

    Asked when she would be arriving on her Presidential hunger
    strike to Washington, DC, Lara stated "I may arrive around the
    time of the anti-globalization protests at the International
    Monetary Fund (IMF) meetings starting September 28."

    "On my way to the White House, I may stop where others feel I can
    be if use," she adds. "In New York, I plan to sit in on hunger
    strike at the offices of President Bill Clinton in Harlem. He was
    very supportive of extraterrestrial Disclosure, but was blocked.
    I also will definitely take this hunger strike to the United
    Nations in New York."

    On July 26, Canada's Foreign Minister John Manley stated that
    "Canada would be very happy…to launch an initiative to see an
    international convention preventing the weaponization of space."
    Canada's lead in initiating a United Nations treaty banning
    space-based weapons is a marked break with the Bush
    administration on the issue of preventing an arms race in space.

    When asked about how her Presidential hunger strike would unfold
    in Washington, DC, Lara says, "Well, I am just starting to think
    about that. I may ask to join Proposition One in a vigil in front
    of the White House." Proposition One is a grassroots movement for
    disarmament of nuclear weapons and the conversion of nuclear and
    other arms industries to provide for human and environmental
    needs."

    "My hunger strike is really about the truth - be that about the
    environment, or about extraterrestrial Disclosure. If there were
    high-level environmental witnesses coming forth to reveal
    testimony about ecological dangers, they would receive a great
    deal of public support, both within the environmental movement
    and with the public. The same degree to support should be given
    the Disclosure witnesses. I am grateful for all the work the
    Disclosure witnesses have done, the work everyone has done! "

    This EcoNews story is based on reporting by Clyde Lewis, Holly
    Conley, Grant Cameron, Ernie Vega, and Alfred Webre.

    In another blow to the Bush administration, the Associated Press
    has learned that the Bush daughters are expected to announce
    Thursday their party switch from the Bush family to the Kennedy
    clan. The Bush daughters, Barbara and Jenna, were recently cited
    for trying to buy alcohol with fake ID's at an Austin restaurant.

    Barbara Bush said, "In light of the current climate in Washington
    and Austin, this move just feels right."

    Jenna Bush also made a statement but was incoherent and could not
    be quoted.

    The mood at the White House was somber as the President expressed
    his "disappointery" at his daughters' decision.

    Official spokesperson Ari Fleisher denied that this move would
    shift the balance of partying power to the Democrats. "The
    President will continue to do the job the Supreme Court sent him
    here to do."

    Privately however, White House staffers worried that the Kennedys
    would now be invited to future Rose Garden keggers.

    Ted Kennedy was also expected to make a statement when he woke
    up, maybe as soon as 3 PM.
    UFOs + Facts + Aliens + Life + Your Reality and Goodness.

    Government Employees Say It's Time to Reveal UFO Evidence.

    ABCNews.com - That's according to a group of about 20 former
    government workers, many of them military and security officials,
    who stepped forward on Wednesday to say they had witnessed
    evidence of aliens and unidentified flying objects and called for
    congressional hearings about such sightings.

    "These testimonies establish once and for all that we are not
    alone," said Steven Greer, director of the Disclosure Project, a
    nonprofit research organization dedicated to disclosing alleged
    alien sightings.

    Greer, who organized the program at the National Press Club in
    Washington, argued that the United States and other governments
    have known about UFOs for at least 50 years and have been keeping
    the information secret.

    Greer said there were some 400 witnesses who claim to have
    firsthand experience with UFO sightings or alien evidence, and
    are willing to testify before Congress.

    Among them is Daniel Sheehan, a well-known Washington lawyer who
    is acting as counsel for members of Greer's group.

    Sheehan told reporters that during the Carter administration he
    found out about government-held UFO information that then-CIA
    Director George Bush, father of the current president, would not
    release.

    Sheehan said he was then led into the National Archives, where he
    was shown photographs of captured UFOs, complete with what
    appeared to be alien writing symbols, but he was only allowed to
    take notes on a yellow legal pad. He traced the photos onto the
    cardboard back of his pad, he said.

    International UFO Cabal? James Oberg, an ABCNEWS space consultant
    and retired NASA engineer, says Greer has long argued "there's
    this bizarre theory that there is a worldwide real X-file cabal
    that is using UFO technology."

    But Oberg noted not every witness attending the conference
    necessarily subscribed to Greer's theory, and says those
    attending the press conference shouldn't be mocked.

    "People see strange things they can't understand, and that can't
    be explained either then or in hindsight, and it's good to keep
    documenting these, because often the mysterious sightings are
    things of interest, to military intelligence or even to science."

    Oberg says people sometimes can be too quick to conclude that the
    explanation is little green men.

    "Often, I've seen people jump to conclusions about what they saw,
    because, after all, to have been scared by a distant fireball can
    be embarrassing but to have encountered an alien space ship is
    more exciting."

    Military Denies UFOs

    The U.S. government repeatedly has denied having any evidence of
    alien species, though it investigated UFOs for decades.

    The Air Force was responsible for investigating alleged sightings
    for the military. From 1947 to 1969, the service's Project Blue
    Book at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio, investigated
    12,618 reported sightings. It said it found explanations for all
    but 701, such as swamp gas, airplane lights, weather balloons and
    other natural phenomena.

    Sightings for which explanations couldn't be determined were
    categorized as sketchy reports that couldn't be pinned down.

    In 1997, the Air Force announced it was formally closing its
    nearly 50-year investigation into the alleged alien sighting at
    Roswell, N.M. It denied that there was evidence of a UFO at
    Roswell and that the military covered it up.

    "Information obtained through exhaustive records searches and
    interviews indicated the material recovered near Roswell was
    consistent with a balloon device of the type used in a
    then-classified project," said a Pentagon statement. "No records
    indicated, or even hinted at, the recovery of 'alien' bodies or
    extraterrestrial materials."

    Alien Energy?

    In another statement Wednesday, Donna Hare, a former NASA
    contract employee, said that Apollo astronauts saw an alien craft
    when they landed on the moon, but were told not to reveal it.
    Hare's source was a man who had been quarantined with the
    astronauts.

    Former Air Force Maj. George Filer III told reporters that when
    he was at McGuire Air Force Base in New Jersey, an alien craft
    came down, and an alien got out and was shot by a military
    policeman.

    "Our security police went out there and found him at the end of
    the runway dead," Filer said.

    "They asked me to brief the general staff," he said, but was
    later told not to. He said he would tell the story in front of
    Congress.

    Filer is not new to UFO sightings. He has his own Web site caled
    Filer's Files, where he says he also chased an alien ship over
    England when flying for the U.S. Air Force.

    "I personally have observed a UFO both visually and on radar.
    I've been chasing them ever since," he writes.

    Greer said extraterrestrials could provide a new, plentiful
    source of energy that would supply the world's energy needs.

    Information from alien encounters, said Greer, could also have
    significant impact on the global environment and the quest for
    world peace.

    ABCNEWS' Katelynn Raymer in Washington and David Ruppe in New
    York contributed to this report.

    By Dick Farley [email protected]
    The American UFO Newsletter 5-10-1

    I was there. (Actually I asked the last questions, of Dan Sheehan
    and Steven Greer. Sheehan answered his but Greer "didn't have
    time." Event over!) The event lasted two and a half hours; I do
    not know how much of it is archived. It is supposed to remain on
    the NPC site for six months, but you should watch it soon. I am
    told the Project Discovery (CSETI & Paradigm Research Group) site
    has it too.

    The event was held in the ballroom (13th Floor) of the National
    Press Club in Washington (14th and F. Streets, NW). While the
    room is available for rental by anyone, it costs less if rented
    through a Press Club member. According to the manager of catering
    for the NPC, the Project Disclosure event was booked by Ms. Sarah
    MacClendon, a now-90-ish veteran White House reporter who has
    been a thorn in the sides of many Presidents who sought to keep
    the American people in the dark about something Sarah believed we
    needed to know. This is important to consideration of the Project
    Disclosure event.

    It was well-connected, well-funded. There were references to
    Zero-Point Energy, anti-grav and other claims of technical
    advances some on this list are working on. You'll be happy to
    know you've already succeeded and that your technologies hold the
    keys to "stopping global warming" and "ending the energy crisis,"
    among other benefits. Of course, the weaponization of space was a
    primary focus of the organizers (they're against it). But the
    real stars were the retired military officers and FAA officials,
    who are agreeing to testify before a Congressional committee if
    one can be prodded into holding open hearings on it.

    One area of advance hype that did not happen were appearances via
    video tape of former astronauts Edgar Mitchell and Gordon Cooper.
    No mention was made of this and there was no video tape shown.
    The 21 "in person" witnesses each made a five-minute or less
    presentation, the majority of which were coherent and persuasive.
    As I am not given to hyperbole, and whatever one thinks about
    Greer and his gig, I do have to report that the event itself was
    professionally run and very well received. There is material now
    "out there" for intelligent public discussion of UFOs and ET,s
    and if there are some on this list concerned about efforts to
    "start up a new religion" for the Technocratic Age, do fasten
    your seat belts, because here it comes! Now! Greer referred
    (without attribution) to Arthur Clarke's characterization of this
    time as "the end of humanity's childhood." I will leave it to you
    to see the event on the web.

    What Greer & Company have formed is something I have called in
    the past a "nontraditional alliance," of former military folks
    who are decidedly conservative patriots working alongside abject
    liberals like Daniel Sheehan, who did legal work for the New York
    Times on the Pentagon Papers case and later was involved in the
    Karen Silkwood case (about Kerr-McGee's nuclear operations for
    DoE, in Texas, etc.). It is a fascinating mix and again, well
    worth personal review & analysis by each of you.

    It had an impressive array of witness (21 present in the flesh),
    many with solid and public credentials. For the first time, some
    "official" folks having UFO sightings or knowledge are saying, in
    front of (a bank of 12-plus TV cameras and "real" press) that
    they will testify before Congress. This is one initiative the
    "Majestic-12" gang will find it impossible to ignore, and with
    Rumsfeld-Bush space policies up for review, it will be along
    lines of opening up "black budget" projects where Congress will
    dig.

    Again, regardless of one's perspective or bias about the
    "players," today's event is singularly important because it's the
    best executed such initiative we've ever had. I have my own
    views, of course, about some of what was said. And no, I am NOT
    "drinking the Kool-Aid" (none was served). But rather than burn
    up the Internet with chaff and hearsay, this one is worth you
    science guys and others on-list tuning in. More later and I
    certainly will respond to questions and to clarify "hearsay,"
    etc. It is important that this effort not degenerate into simply
    more disinformation and angry invective, personal attacks and
    accusations. Kudos to Greer and Steve Bassett for a program
    well-conducted.

    As to "what it all means," what other motives or agendas are in
    play here, that will take months to gauge. Some of the "usual
    suspects" were present, of course, from the "Retail UFOlogy of
    Usual Kind" cadres, no doubt to find and amplify the weakest
    links or wildest tales, to again try and derail the campaign. But
    it won't work this time around. As Greer noted, today's event is
    the start of "a process."

    My sense is THIS disclosure initiative is getting support from
    official, if not necessarily "political," levels in the
    government and military, with an eye toward perhaps "cleaning up"
    bad secrets from the Cold War corroding public confidence. There
    no doubt are elements of the "Matrix of UFO Beliefs" this
    particular group is not interested in addressing (at least
    publicly), such as "mind control" allegations or
    "angelic/demonic" interpretations of alien abductions,
    "hybridization" suspicions or the ultimate intentions of the
    "visiting others."

    The mood expressed by principles of the organizing entities
    (sorry, couldn't resist ;-) is decidedly "peaceful surrender" to
    the "aliens," as Greer's rationale (as he expressed it during the
    Q. & A. period) is that if "they" wanted to harm us they already
    would have, given our bad treatment of them over the years. And
    Greer, Sheehan and others are, of course, of the "belief" that
    disclosure of what they are certain is at the heart of the UFO
    "cover-up" will be a planetary unification stimulus, which Greer
    and obviously his backers clearly favor. But for the present,
    Steven and his allies are focusing on the "real sightings" of an
    unexplained kind, letting the retired military and aviation
    officials "break trail" on it.

    I'm waiting to gauge the media penetration, "spin" and any
    counterattacks before I weigh in with analysis or "local color."
    But I am glad I went in person, and I had an opportunity to
    interview a number of the witnesses one-on-one, without
    intervention or spinning by the organizers. Let's see how the
    fallout and counterattacks by those who do not favor "UFO
    disclosure" or "space demilitarization" takes shape. Later! If
    it's real, it has a politics. Once "disclosure" happens, the real
    debates begin!

    References: http://www.press.org
    http://www.DisclosureProject.org

    UFOs + Facts + Aliens + Life + Your Reality and Goodness.

    "Government Employees Say It's Time to Reveal UFO Evidence."

    What if everything is an illusion and nothing exists? In that case, I definitely overpaid for my carpet.
    Woody Allen

  • Okidok
    Okidok

    I know this thread leeds you to confusion. But it is true. Aliens have been here for more than 40 years. Maybe longer

    What if everything is an illusion and nothing exists? In that case, I definitely overpaid for my carpet.
    Woody Allen

  • ianao
    ianao

    At least SOMETHING is happening. Take a look at this new org that promises the persuit of a cleaner/safer environment through use of scientific principles that many have witness but few take seriously.

    http://motionsciences.org/index_flash.html

    Tallyman, you'll like this one dude!

  • DCs Ghost
    DCs Ghost

    hey oki i sent a link to this thread to a bunch of friends who believe.

    my take on aliens is that because the New York Times reported the crash in roswell,nm the following morning after it happened it held some truth, truth that many may not want todeal with

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