How often is Christ view of headship followed?

stillAwitness

I did go to a wedding last night. The talk was painfully boring and same as always. Seemed to be more directed to the bride at times:

"Remember you are to be below your new husband, recognize your role in the marriage, never attempt to take control of it." BLAH BLAH BLAH

And how sad I could already see the new husband taking onto his 'King of the Castle' role quite well. I was seated at the table right next to the bride and groom's and he would "Shush" her very rudely a few times during people's speeches. I dare a man "shush" me

And yet the WT always tells husbands that they are never to abuse the role of headship but how many of them really follow that rule? Once someone drills it into your head that you're "that man" in charge, the head Honcho-are you really worried about the chance of abusing that role?

seawolf

Not very often. I know of several taliban, *cough* sorry, I mean elders that were beating the living sh*t out of their wives. One of them got it so bad that she ended up in the state mental hospital many, many times.

I always found it disgusting how the men treated their wives and lorded it over them like they were some sort of god.

dinah

In a nutshell hardly ever is Christ recognized. They have too many layers before you get to Jesus.

I could rant on this family head bull, but not today. It DOES NOT give a man license to do whatever. But the FDS does, can't let Jehovah look bad (like any of us COULD-------He's like perfect----JEEEEEZ) So they let men beat their wives, F*&* their children. It's all hunkey dinky.

Convention anyone???

PoppyR

I hold the opposite view, I think that nobody takes much notice of the headship rule, certainly around myself and my peers, pretty much women rule the roost as they do in most relationships I wouldn't dream of asking hubbys permission to do something, and he wouldn't expect me to either. We treat each other with respect, always have. And I think most younger couples in the cong are the same. I've NEVER heard of a case of an elder beating his wife, and would highly doubt that kind of thing would go on unoticed unless SHE wanted it to.

Poppy

Van Gogh

PoppyR,

The emancipated cong members of course laugh at the bOrg rules. They apply whatever suits them and leave out the rest. Sometimes it is called common sense - sometimes it is blatant double standards.

It is the WEAK ones that get hurt by the system. They take the system seriously. That's the whole point. The "lambs" that remain "silent" get abused.

Reproach cannot be brought on God's organization. So it isn't that well known what goes on behind closed doors.

Coming from a more or less abusive elder's home myself, I experienced first hand the mechanism of keeping silent.

It is hard to believe, I know, but a trusted ex dub from (not from the Netherlands - so untracable) finally confessed to me only yesterday how she/he was raped by an elder 35 years ago after seeking spiritual assistance - after knowing me for 25 years... She/he told me how for years she/he had to deal with him as an elder and his wife.

She/he only told me after I confessed to her/him yesterday that I had definitely and finally left JW.

I know, it boggles the mind...

stillAwitness

I've heard the nightmarish stories of the abuse that elders have put on their wives..but as naive as it may sound it still seems so hard to believe sometimes i guess b/c I have never heard or seen it done in my con. ever.

And its funny how you hear DUBS boast about them compared to "Christendom" where priests rape young girls and homosexuals are allowed in.

Why isn't the media able to shed a better light as to what goes on in the Kingdom Halls? If they are able to do it in churches than why not there too?

nowisee

when i was in, an interested person with whom my (1st) husband and i studied caught the attention of a married ms. he decided to "shepherd" her and one night went to her home and raped her. this girl was somewhat worldly wise and know she would not be believed by the elders. she got this ms to admit to his actions on the phone in our presence and on tape. imagine how we felt when he was reported,the tape was played for the elders, but nothing was done by the men in charge, even though the ms in question supposedly confessed, and..... SHE ended up being shunned. certainly gave ME pause.

Satanus

Umm, was christ into the male headship thing. I am getting rusty, but i don't recall him saying anything about it. 'Course, paul was another story.

S

How often is Christ view of headship followed?

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