I have just received today my three copies of the Blood essay from Baylor today. The title for this thread comes from the expression of another poster, who said, I have received my copies....Wow!THE BIG VOW expresses my determination to use this essay outside the legal system in the pubic domain and raise awareness of the malevolant blood policy of the Watchtower. Public Opinion is my jury, the judge is heaven itself along with anyone else who wishes to give judgement on this case. I am acting on in memory of of all those who have lost their lives because of this non-Biblical dogma, and all their relatives still living who have suffered loss.
In memory of ++++++: From my memories of my days and involvement with Jay Dubs, I have three incidences where people have lost their lives. How many of you, know of cases where people have lost their lives with their refusal to take blood under the influence of the WT God that demands human sacrifice for the vindication of his name. What I would like to see, is not only a reference to these cases, but how the WT has misrepresented not only medical references but also misrepresented the God of Love and His Son, who gave his blood for the deliverance of humanity.
My first in memory of: goes to young pioneer woman in Montreal whose maiden name was Connie Leonard, the daughter, I believe of a single mom. She married circa nineteen sixties and became pregnant. Because she and her husband did not have the funds to have her baby delivered in a hospital, they went to a midwifery, run by Catholic nuns to have her baby. The baby was born, Connie bled to death, the midwives, were not knowledgeable enough to save her.
I will post later, what misrepresentations if any were involved in this tragedy.
I have two other cases that I will post later, I am awaiting for some documentation about them. I have spoken to a lawyer friend of mine and he indicated that their is a possibility that even though one has died from the blood issue, there exists perhaps a way for a relative to pursue litigation in memory of that person. I have to verify this.
Do any of you have anyone you want to write: in memory of+++++:?
belbab
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I will post later, what misrepresentations if any were involved in this tragedy.
This tragedy took place many years ago, I do not have many details. But scriptural misrepresentations of the WT are evident. Their errors of omission in their teachings are gross.
In ancient Israel a newly married man was allowed one whole year with his wife before being conscripted for warfare. Have you ever heard of a pioneer getting one year leave of absence because he got married? Where I live, working women are legally entitled to a leave of absence if they are carrying a child.5 “In case a man takes a new wife, he should not go out into the army, nor should anything else be imposed onto him. He should continue exempt at his house for one year, and he must make his wife whom he has taken rejoice. Deut 24:5 NWT
Ah, but the WT would say, that was in the OT, they were in the promised land, today the preaching work takes precedence over everything. Paul writes to Titus:
that they may recall the young women to their senses to love their husbands, to love their children, 5 to be sound in mind, chaste, workers at home, good, subjecting themselves to their own husbands, so that the word of God may not be spoken of abusively. Titus 2:4,5 NWT How can they love their children if they are required to demonstrate their love to God above all?
15 However, she will be kept safe through childbearing, provided they continue in faith and love and sanctification along with soundness of mind. 1Tim 2:15 NWT
Was this young woman kept safe in her childbearing? Pioneers are frowned upon if they have children. I know there are other ways of looking at this scripture for example, at the event of Jesus death, his mother and other woman were at the scene, along with John, and they were not bothered by the Roman soldiers. The rest of the apostles were in hiding.
So any comments? Is the WT misrepresenting the scriptures with their blood policy. Is there not also a non- religious secular misrepresentation? If woman are legally allowed to have a leave of absence to bear children in the work force, why not a authorized leave of absence from the pioneer work, so the husband can earn money and the mother can carry her child without anxiety and stress?
Although this case is so far in the past, and there is not much possibility of finding all the details. However, it should be acknowledged,
in loving memory of Constance Leonard,
I shall return, belbab
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Finally-Free
Have you ever heard of a pioneer getting one year leave of absence because he got married?
Leave of absence??? Quite the opposite.
I had a knee injury, a back injury, and pioneer™ school the same year I got married. While I was bedridden with my injuries other pioneers™ in the hall took the opportunity to go out and follow my fiance as she looked after my window cleaning routes. The customer list, which included pricing info, was stolen from inside the car. Then they visited my customers and undercut my prices, and I lost a good chunk of my business. So, once I recovered from my injuries I had to spend extra time trying to build up the business again or face bankruptcy. It was a rough year, and I missed my "time" by about 80 hours. The elders counselled me for missing my time, and removed my "privileges" in the sound and magazine departments. Two months later I was removed from the pioneer™ ranks.
I know of a tragedy too, where a JW couple lost an child. The child may have died anyway, but the society exploited the situation and used it to demonize the medical profession. I'll be making good use of my copies of the Journal as well.
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Here is and interesting quote regarding the ridiculous arguments of Jehovah's Witnesses. The article explains itself.
Questia Media America, Inc. www.questia.com
However, if the Christian Church contains tactless and misguided interpreters of God's message, for really dottiness you have to look at Jehovah's Witnesses.
In a groundbreaking operation, doctors in Leeds have carried out a kidney transplant between a man and his wife without either of them having a blood transfusion. This is because they are Witnesses and giving or receiving blood is forbidden by the Bible.
But not, it seems, giving or receiving kidneys. I asked a Jehovah's Witness friend to explain this bizarre contradiction and was told that although the Bible bans the receipt of blood, it doesn't say anything about receiving someone else's organs, so therefore it's all right.Could that perhaps be because organ donation wasn't an available option among the Hebrews several millenia ago? But then, neither were blood transfusions. This suggests that God's edict, if you choose to accept it, had more to do with consuming blood than transferring it medically.
So following that line of logic, does that mean Jehovah's Witnesses are vegetarians? Well, actually, no. They might like a steak, but they leave the gravy.
While I'm pleased that the Leeds transplant couple have found a way around their dilemma of faith, the irrationally-selective beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses are as nutty as they come.
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