For "any" interested in Dave Icke's...

by sf 4 Replies latest jw friends

  • sf
    sf

    ...material (please note bottom of page):

    (Not for the closed-minded)

    < http://reptile.users2.50megs.com/exp/e010900a.html

    sKally, the more I know, the more I want to Know KLASS

  • COMF
    COMF
    A short time later I bought a book called Abducted; Human Encounters with Aliens...
    That night I had this dream...
    This same thing happened to the guy in the book that I had just read!

    Wow... who'da thunk it!

    COMF

    "Not unless fired upon, suh... not unless fired upon."

  • Thirdson
    Thirdson

    Skally,

    What do you know about David Icke? Can you provide in 2 or 3 sentences his bio.

    Another question: If Bob Costas (him of NBC sport) quit his job and joined the Green party, grew his hair long and then announced he was the Messiah, how credible would you think he was?

    That's my estimate of Icke, he was good on telly on a Saturday afternoon though.

    Thirdson

    'To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing'

  • Abaddon
    Abaddon

    Hmmmmmm...

    Hooey.

    There was a thread started by Okidok or some-such about crop circles before the weekend, as Okidok seemed to lose interest when confronted with requests for facts.

    This is serious whack-job territory.

    David Icke is a dellusional muppet. Look at the stuff he publishes on his website;

    The Bible gives us 42 signs of the Antichrist. This particular man who will be mentioned in a moment matches 27 of them. Most of the unmatched signs are still in the future.

    The Bible tells us to "Calculate the number of the Beast, for the number is that of a man, and his number is 666".

    If you don't know how the Hebrew gematria system of math works, here is an outline. The values 1-9 are assigned to the first 9 letters of the alphabet, 10-90 for the next 9 letters, and 100-400 for the last four letters, (they only have 22 characters in the alphabet.) Using this system of math, and applying it to the first 22 characters of the English alphabet, (the last 4 letters equate to zero), we can calculate names in English just as you can calculate names in Hebrew.

    There is a man on the world scene whose name and title calculates to 666 in both Hebrew and English. He doesn't fit the image of a strong charismatic leader, and most of us think of him as "weak". He is… Prince Charles of Wales.

    He was born in 1948, the year Israel became a nation. ( Interestingly, the Prophet Daniel refers to the Antichrist, in Dan. 9:26, as a Prince of the people who destroyed the Temple. He is a Prince, through his father's lineage, of the same people who destroyed the Temple in 70 AD-the Romans. He has a lineage chart through his mother's side which shows him to be the "Son of David"-and he is not a Jew. There was a documentary on Israeli television about Prince Charles which introduced his lineage chart to the Jewish people. Now all he needs to do is help the Jews get access to the Temple Mount, and he will have met the test of the true Messiah, as taught by the Rabbis.)

    The Bible refers to the Antichrist as a "despicable person" who has not yet received a kingship. Prince Charles is not well respected by his own people (even more so after the Diana 'car crash'). He has been through many messy public scandals, and there have been rumours of homosexuality, adultery (proven), occult practices and spiritual worship-and he has not yet received his kingship!

    When the Book of Revelation told us to, "Calculate the number of the Beast, for the number is that of a man and his number is 666", it literally gave us his name. Onomastics is the study of names. Any onomastics book will show that Charles means "man". It means "man" or "manly". The words "Charles" and "man" can be used interchangeably in that verse without affecting the meaning at all. That verse literally reads, "...for the number is that of a Charles..."

    Riddle of the Seven Kings, (the 3rd riddle): In the Book of Revelation, Chapter 17, Verses 10-11, it says, "There are seven kings. Five were, one is and one is to be. The Beast is the eighth and of the seven." There were seven emperors of the Holy Roman Empire named Charles, (check the World Book Encyclopaedia). Prince Charles' lineage chart shows that he is descended, through his father, from the fifth emperor of the Holy Roman Empire named Charles, of the House of Hapsburg. Prince Charles is the eighth and, (by his lineage), he is also of the seventh.

    Prince Charles' coat of arms and crest was designed for him by the British College of Heraldry, using a system of guidelines over 500 years old. It contains all the Biblical symbols of the Antichrist. It has a dog supported by a roaring lion and a unicorn, (called a wild beast with a straight horn, or a wild oxen). Psalms 22:19-21 describes these animals, with a prayer for deliverance. The composite beast of Revelation 13:2, with the head of a lion, body of a leopard and feet of a bear is symbolic for other people--but not for Prince Charles. It is on his Coat of Arms. It represents the emperors of the Holy Roman Empire. These are the animal symbols for France, the leopard; Germany, the Bear; and England, the lion. These nations represented the western arm of the Holy Roman Empire.

    That verse also says, "And the dragon gave him his power and his throne and great authority." The dragon is "symbolic" to others, but not to Prince Charles. He has a red dragon on his coat of arms. It comes from the flag of Wales, and it is in his title, Prince of Wales, that Charles is heir-apparent to the throne of Great Britain.

    At his coronation, he sat on a chair with a large red dragon emblazoned on it. During the ceremony, his mother said, "This dragon gives you your power, your throne and your authority." His response to her was, "I am now your Leige-man, and worthy of your earthly worship." Leige is an old English word meaning "Lord". "I am now your Lord-man, and worthy of your earthly worship."

    By the way, Prince Charles Coat of Arms has another symbol--The Order of the Garter. The Order of the Garter is the parent organization over Free Masonry, world-wide. When a man becomes a 33rd Degree Mason, he swears allegiance to that organization, and thereby to Prince Charles.

    Prince Charles may seem like a wimp, and lacking charisma. He is however quite athletic, an expert horseman, a qualified jet fighter pilot in the Royal Air Force, a qualified helicopter pilot in the Royal Navy, and a senior military officer in all three branches of service.

    Also, MONDEX International, the premiere cashless smartcard system, is set for rapid global implementation. Founded in 1993 by NATWEST (personal bank of the royal family) and 51% owned by MASTERCARD it is now the decided victor of the electronic cash systems. The first countries to employ MONDEX nationwide by 1998 are the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Israel, Hong Kong, China, Indonesia, Macau, Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore, Thailand, India, Taiwan and Sri Lanka. Watch in the coming weeks for announcements on the US and the European Union. "This is the final stage in becoming a global reality," said Robin O'Kelly of Mondex International. "With MasterCard's backing, there's nothing to stop Mondex now from becoming the global standard." Note: MON-DEX is a compound of two words, monetary and dexter. Webster's defines these as {monetary - pertaining to money} {dexter- belonging to or on the right hand}.

    It also always seems that the devil or dark characters like Dracula often appear or are symbolised in books and films as an aristocratic person.

    I also remember a newspaper article a couple of years ago when a young man tried to "assassinate" Prince Charles. He had a fake gun and ran on to the platform where Prince Charles was speaking and aimed a gun at him - Prince Charles just stood there in front of him and did not flinch.

    After that incident he was interviewed and asked how he managed to stand there and not move or duck out of the way… He said "It was from years of breeding." I never quite understood what he meant until now.

    Look, if people want to believe there are Reptiloids (Dracoians), Greys and 'Nordics', plus secret huamn organisations all engaged in a massive power struggle, they can do. Yeah, Prince Charles is the anti-christ. Forget that the above quote, in addition to having unsubstanciated assertations, has downright inaccuracies (the 'Royal bank' is NOT NatWest) by the half-dozen.

    I used to work for a small branch of the Civil Service called The Crown Estate Commissioners, who manage the properties given over to the government by George III in return for a fixed income.

    They have a file of whack-job letters that gets filled to over flowing every year or two. One regular cpontributor writes on hard waxy toilet paper, held together with a string through one corner. They write in a green biro and it is stream of conciousness dribble about conspiracies and survielance.

    All that I find on this topic is similarly dillusional nonsense that just happens to be presented better.

    A fool and his beliefs are parted with difficulty. This crap is a waste of life.

  • Jools j
    Jools j

    if you would enjoy taking a helter skelter ride thro the ramblings of a seriously derranged chap, go ahead.
    there's soooooo much conspiracy going on. why, icke's pages even say that the Mormon's and the JWs are one and the same.
    not to mention hollow earth; and bush and gore both being shape-shifting reptilians . . . you name it, he's got a theory on it.
    the question isn't whether one has an open mind. more whether one has enjoyed a recent lobotomy.

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