I claim that our forefathers received visits from the universe in the remote past, even though I do not yet know who these extra-terrestrial intelligences were or from which planet they came. I nevertheless proclaim that these "strangers" annihilated part of mankind existing at the time and produced a new, perhaps the first, homo sapiens.
As was illustrated in the Hollywood films Contact, and Close Encounters Of The Third Kind, Erich von Daniken's hypothesis took America by storm in the 1960's with the proposition that mankind was possibly the offspring of an ancient, perhaps ongoing, extra-terrestrial experiment.
New Age ufologists like Daniken assert that the Sphinx, the Pyramids, and the mythologies of ancient cultures may be evidence of an encounter with other-worldly beings. They claim that ancient men would have considered space travelers as gods and would have recorded their arrival, their experiments, and their departure, in hieroglyphs, megaliths, and stone tablets, as a "supernatural" encounter between gods and men.
Mr. Daniken continues:
While [the] spaceship disappears again into the mists of the universe our friends will talk about the miracle—"The gods were here!"....they will make a record of what happened: uncanny, weird, miraculas. Then their texts will relate—and drawings will show—that gods in golden clothes were there in a flying boat that landed with a tremendous din. They will write about chariots which the gods drove over land and sea, and of terrifying weapons that were like lightning, and they will recount that the gods promised to return. They will hammer and chisel in the rock pictures of what they had seen:
Von Daniken also claims that the odd appearance of some of the gods as depicted in various hieroglyphs (human-like creatures with falcon heads; lions with heads of bulls, etc) could be viewed as evidence that "aliens" conducted experiments of cloning and cross-mutating both ancient people and animals.
Some people accept this part of Daniken's hypothesis as a humanistic alternative to the Biblical account of creation. It's uncertain how many people believe such a theory, but a full eighty percent of Americans claim they believe in the possibility of extra-terrestrial life. Some, like the 39 members of the Heaven's Gate cult that committed suicide in Rancho Santa Fe, California and believed they were being summoned by a UFO trailing the Hale-Bopp Comet, subscribe to an eerie amalgam of mysticism and conventional religion.
Not suprisingly, the growing interest in UFOs and the paranormal has given birth to a growing campaig to persuade the government to be more forthcoming and aggressive in investigating UFO sightings.
IF THEY EXIST, WHO ARE THEY?
Some believe a portion of UFO activity is not only real, but demonic.
Hal Lindsey states, "I have become thoroughly convinced that UFOs are real....I believe these beings are not only extraterrestrial but supernatural in origin. To be blunt, I think they are demons."
Author and researcher Lynn Marzulli depicts alien visitors as malevolent forces bent on enslaving the human race in his bestselling books Nephilim and The Unholy Deception.
In Angels Dark and Light, Gary Kinnaman says, "I am fairly convinced that....UFO sightings are the manifestations of angels of darkness. My main reason for thinking this is that UFO sightings have never, at least to my knowledge, led a person closer to God. In fact, most UFO experiences have just the opposite effect."
Associate professor of psychology Elizabeth L. Hillstrom points out that a growing number of academics also support the conclusion that UFOnauts are synonymous with historical demons. In her informative book, Testing the Spirits she writes:
From a Christian perspective, Vallee’s explanation of UFOs is the most striking because of its parallels with demonic activity. UFO investigators have noticed these similarities. Vallee himself, drawing from extrabiblical literature on demonic activities, establishes a number of parallels between UFOnauts and demons....Pierre Guerin, a UFO researcher and a scientist associated with the French National Council for Scientific Research, is not so cautious: "The modern UFOnauts and the demons of past days are probably identical." Veteran researcher John Keel, who wrote UFOs: Operation Trojan Horse and other books on the subject, comes to the same conclusion: "The UFO manifestations seem to be, by and large, merely minor variations of the age-old demonological phenomenon."
"It’s easy for me to believe that demons are sometimes involved with flying saucer activity," says researcher Thomas Horn. "Evil spirits can manipulate energy and matter, and the theological terms Transmogrification and Poltergeist [noisy ghost] imply that spirits can make lights go off and on, doors bang, icons bleed, and I suppose saucers fly."
But if a portion of "flying saucer" activity is demonic, what nefarious purpose is served by the stealthy nature of UFO phenomena?
The answer is diabolical. UFO-ism seems to be aimed at preparing the earth for an extraterrestrial "visitation of the gods," and, more importantly, at changing our religious beliefs.
This occurs in two ways according to Horn: First, from a technological standpoint, UFO sightings challenge the claim of human superiority and dispute our unique role in the universe. We are made to feel shallow, undeveloped, unenlightened.
Second, from a religious point of view, extraterrestrials bring a message (as reported in hundreds of abduction cases) of easy universalism and New Age mysticism including dialogue of humans "on the verge of extraordinary telepathic and technological growth."
Channeled messages from so called benevolent E.T.s claim they are watching over us and promise to appear at the appropriate time to assist in our next big evolutionary, spiritual, and technological step forward. To prepare us for their coming, popular movieslike Mission to Mars, bestselling books, cultural trends, and religious ideas, are focusing the earths masses on "help from above" while New Agers smile and explain "It’s okay, they’ve been here before, so don’t worry, ancient men simply described flying saucers in terms of demons, angels, and gods, because they didn’t understand what they were seeing."
In other words, New Agers believe that space vehicles manipulating the laws of physics by suddenly appearing, disappearing, and operating anti-gravitationally, were assigned "god" or "angel" status by sincere but ignorant prophets and that Ezekiel’s living creatures will return soon in their wheels "in the middle of a wheel" to provide explanations of our origin and solutions to our problems.
WERE WE VISITED IN THE PAST?
Such New Age claims of extraterrestrials visiting the earth in ancient times and interacting with men is biblically and historically true. Where Christians differ from New Agers is in the definition of who these creatures were and what they were doing.
In the Interlinear Hebrew Bible we read:
The benei Elohim saw the daughters of Adam, that they were fit extensions. And they took wives for themselves from all those that they chose...The Nephelim were in the earth in those days, and even afterwards when the benei Elohim came in to the daughters of Adam, and they bore to them—they were Powerful Ones which existed from ancient times, the men of name. (Gen. 6:2,4)
The benei Elohim were "extraterrestrial" angelic creatures also known as "watchers," "sons of God," and "rephiam." They visited the earth during antiquity and used the daughters of Adam as "fit extensions" or instruments through which they extended themselves into the physical world. They sought to corrupt the bloodline of Adam, to deceive the human race, and to prevent the birth of the Messiah. They represented themselves as "gods," and their offspring, the Nephilim ("fallen ones"), attempted to exterminate the people of Yahweh.
WHAT ARE "THEY" UP TO NOW?
Many evangelicals believe that an imminent rapture of the Church will be accompanied by "...fearful sights and great signs...from heaven" (Lk 21:11) and that Satan is contriving an "alien invasion" to explain the disappearance of these multitudes of people. With eighty percent of the population believing in the possibility of extra-terrestrial intelligence, they say this would be a powerful form of deception. And since New Age theology is producing a growing belief among many contemporary church groups that flying saucers will be the method "God" uses to retrieve the Christian community during the Rapture, the UFO sightings phenomenon could play a significant part in the great deception that pervading the earth following a Rapture.
2 Thessalonians 2:8-12 says:
And then shall that Wicked [one] be revealed....whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders....And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness [emphasis added].
The world authorities remaining to make up the governments of the Antichrist would need an explanation for those taken in the Rapture. People from around the world would be missing. If the Rapture was followed by hundreds of "space craft" landing on earth piloted by creatures who appeared to be advanced humanoids, these "aliens" could claim to have removed the Christians into a kind of high-tech "rapture" and simultaneously present their leader (antichrist?) as the messiah.
For those who don't believe in the Rapture, UFO’s are seen as potentially introducing the Great Tribulation. The Book of Second Thessalonians says when the Antichrist is revealed he will be accompanied by ‘lying wonders.’ Is that talking about UFO’s? The prophecies of Daniel are perceived by some as supporting this possibility. Daniel says the Antichrist will be a worshiper of Baal, and Baal was originally the lord of the sky. As Baalbamoth he was the lord of the aerial regions. As Baalzebub he was the lord of those that 'fly' or that 'flit about in the sky.' In the New Testament, Satan himself is referenced as the prince of the powers of the air. The obscure aerial phenomena interpreted as UFO activity could therefore be part of an end time delusion—something to deceive humanity concerning a Rapture...or man’s origins...or even the appearance of Antichrist.
If the government comes forward with disclosure of such intelligent aliens, it may signal the beginning of the end.
Government acknowledgement of Alien visitation may trigger "End Times"
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Franz
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Legolas
Interesting!
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truth_about_the_truth
In case some of you think this is merely crazy science fiction talk, there are serious credentialed individuals pushing to make this alien disclosure a reality:
http://www.disclosureproject.org/
What will happen to traditional religious beliefs in this scenario?
http://www.raidersnewsupdate.com/missiontomars2.htm
Let's face it, we are being set up for something huge.
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FairMind
People love science fiction and fantasy. Have you read any books by Ray Bradbury or Dean Koontz as they are full of scientific truth as well?
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Clam
Truth - interesting links, especially the second one.
"Associate professor of psychology Elizabeth L. Hillstrom points out in her book, Testing the Spirits, that a growing number of academics also associate UFO nauts--whoever, or whatever, they are--with historical "demons"."
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Franz
Clam, Demons=evil aliens. Angels=Good Aliens. Lord=King of aliens. Jesus=military chief and spokesman of aliens. Im hoping to soon post a description of the ships they drive (chariot).
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Midget-Sasquatch
Vallee nicely showed the parallels between alleged alien encounters/abductions and the stories of incubi/succubi of the past. But I wouldn't overlook the fact that he also tied it in with tales of Magonia, the fairies and other wee people. Speaking of which, I personally haven't been let in on any plans for an upcoming invasion....then again I'm always left out of the loop.
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Franz
While reading Revelation we see events take place both on earth and in the
heavens.
It doesn't all happen on the earth.
In Revelation 4,5 John is in heaven.
REVELATION 6
John still in heaven sees the white horse rider, since he is watching the
lamb ( Jesus ) who is in heaven.
Yet the white horse rider rides and conquers on the earth and yet the
Antichrist also has power to effect the heavens.
Satan does war in heaven Revelation 12v7 and on earth
1/3 of the stars are swept to the earth ( Revelation 12v4 )
This end time battle will not be like any battle
YET to transcend into the earthly dimension is to take on it's rules of
physics.
As Morpheus said to Neo the MATRIX is based on rules. GOD established those
rules and he rules over them even to recreating everything in all
dimensions.
HOW do we access all dimension ?
Certainly for the believer it is far easier than the unbeliever.
Our physical person is connected to our spiritual person.
THAT is dimensional interconnection ! The spirit person is not matter but
energy, energy like the air is invisible yet exists.
A dead person contains the same number of atoms as the living person YET the
energy is not present.
Many people wait to see there loved ones again. Indeed 1 Corth 15 explains
it.
When we dream we may visualise a scene. Certainly it is not done with
physical atoms but energy. This energy and spirit CAN connect to other
energy.
WHEN we pray there is a connection to GOD. Connections hence can be
established on the SPIRITUAL level.
Visions? Certainly if spiritual connection is possible and it is then it is
theoretically possible that both GOOD and EVIL spirits can connect to other
spirits, hence there can be false and true visions, HENCE we should see if
it corelates to the bible.
JESUS AND HIS SPACE SHIP.
We know the Lord is coming back sometime and is coming on the clouds of
heaven.
Revelations 6 is revealed to John from a heaven perspective. Seals 1-5 is
the satanic invasion, the rise of the Antichrist on earth.
Satan like the arab terrorist is doing a "hudna" waiting for the time to be
right ie when Al-queda and Iran have enough nukes to get the job done.
Revelation 8 Imagine if you will a space dock hovering over the earth like
you see in StarTrek with enterpise in dock. It is similar rather than the
space dock you have the Temple of God ( Jesus and his space ship )
The 7 trumpets sound and OUT of that temple in space comes the 7 angels with
the 7 trumpet judgments.
It is like an invasion force
I put forward the idea that the Heavenly Jerusalem will hover over the earth
~1400 miles up but is cloaked STEALTHY.
Revelation 9v13 The 6th trumpet angel is before GOD in heaven.
ALL the events could happen INVISIBLY since the demons are cloaked and in
the SPIRITUAL realm.
PHYSICALLY on the earth these invisible demons will possess the Arab
terrorist nations around Israel and they'll nuke Israel.
John's SPIRIT person was taken around both spiritual dimension and around
the future.
HOW do we travel around in time ?
We know from physics Space and Time in the physical world are connected
gravity and other things EFFECT time and space.
In the SPIRITUAL realm though freedom exists to travel beyond physical
limitations.
Where as we can see slight effects on physical things regarding time, in the
spiritual realm things are set free. It is possible to glimpse at and part
of time and space since the physical limit is removed.
The rules of our physical MATRIX have limits yet GOD has established those
rules.
HE can show you the future and the past.
HOW hence do you think God can know the END from the BEGINNING, he is the
ALPHA and OMEGA ?
For sure GOD knows, for the spiritual person glimpses into the future is
totally possible.
GOD is in control of everything, yet the end sequence is allowed to happen,
to see who is on who's side.
It is a time of seperation and even of war and suffering YET the time is
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wombat
Franz...You really should talk to Abaddonapollyon...