as requested by silver
sometimes the truth is overshadowed by fear,
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=10781&site=3
peace
dc
by DCs Ghost 8 Replies latest jw friends
as requested by silver
sometimes the truth is overshadowed by fear,
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=10781&site=3
peace
dc
It ALL depends. I am somewhat familiar with wiccan materials, and I have no particular 'fear' or 'ignorance.' Much of it is based upon, as you noted in your earlier post, nature and tribal ritual. Some is well motivated and some is not. For me, I have no interest in wiccan religions any more than I have sitting in front of a grass hut in my Fruit-of-the-loop with a dog-bone in my nose banging a bongo drum to chase away evil spirits to cure the common cold.
Some Statnism is absolutely evil, whether Satan is real or a dark age fiction. The Church of Satan based in San Francisco is one example of an unhealthy group, in my opinion. In one place I lived in Oregon, a Statnic group about a mile or so from my home did sacrifice animals. I lived in the country and could hear the damn cats screaming as they were thrown into the fire. Eventually the Sheriff caught them and made arrests.
I have personally known some who claim they are witches. They are nice folks who live by good values as far as I can tell, and none seem to place in 'Hex' on me. Again, I consider all of it to be something that we need to finish evolving away from and into the 21st Century. - Amazing
<<I consider all
<< of it to be something that we need to finish evolving away from and into the 21st Century.>>
Amazing,
I very much agree with your statement above--that we ARE evolving past our need for religion. What I have found in my study of Wicca and the various Nature Paths, is a removal of religion, or rules in one's spirituality. It helps me to unfold my innate spirituality, with NO ONE in between myself and the energy of the universe (feminine and masculine/god/goddess--yin/yang, if you will). I believe the ancients knew so much, but lacked the technical or mechanical explanations for it. I believe there is a scientific explanation for everything, even if it is stranger than anything in our wildest dreams--my god, look at quantum physics & mechanics. I have my Scientific Americans and Discover Magazines along with my Origin of the Species in with my books on magick, and sometimes the lines between science and what is called Magick are pretty thin (i.e. latest Discovery about probable existence of parallel universes--fascinating!). Then there is Dr. Neil Scraeder's research on the power of the human mind (we can conceivably create our own realities)
What a wonderful universe we live in, no?
B. :)
p.s. I also believe that there is darkness about Satan worshippers (that is, those who worship Satan, the purley BIBLICAL entity--pagans and wiccans do not recognize this entity). One of the first things I learned was that Wiccans and Pagans DO NOT SACRIFICE LIVE THINGS. It is against their precepts to harm ANY. Closet Wiccans can usally be detected by such nefarious activities as RECYCLING (ooooh--shudder) out of a deep reverence for the earth, burning sweet smelling incense (hmmm, wasn't that in the bible?), also, herb gardens....etc. etc. I also find that (at least the ones I know) one of the first things I noticed personality wise, (before I knew they were Wiccans) was their overtly NON judgemental, live-and-let-live demeanors (I knew they probably couldn't be christians). So, I'm glad your experience
with Wiccans has been good likewise. Thanks for your input. :)
"Civilisation will not attain to its perfection
until the last stone from the last church
falls on the last priest"
Emile Zola
Dan, it's probably wrong of me to get a chuckle from your quote, but I did.
DC, thanks for making the new thread!
Bridgette, you wrote:
>>What I have found in my study of Wicca and the various Nature Paths, is a removal of religion, or rules in one's spirituality. It helps me to unfold my innate spirituality, with NO ONE in between myself and the energy of the universe (feminine and masculine/god/goddess--yin/yang, if you will).<<
Absolutely! I think this touches on another thread that was here somewhere about Bible-trained conscience - where we were discussing how some people believe that Christianity is necessary for one to have morality - the Pagan paths teach that we are each responsible for our own lives, we make our own morality. You don't need a thousand-page book of rules on how to conduct yourself in order to be a good person. If you do as you wish, as long as you harm none and fully accept responsibility for yourself with God/Goddess or the universe, you'll do pretty well.
You also wrote:
(i.e. latest Discovery about probable existence of parallel universes--fascinating!).
Of course there are parallel universes. How else do we explain how you can put 10 socks in the dryer and only 9 come out?
Silverleaf
And ignorance breeds Fred Halls.
Is that to say, Fred's parents were afraid to do it? LOL!
<<Of course there are parallel universes. How else do we explain how you can put 10 socks
in the dryer and only 9 come out?>>
Alert the media! Another one of life's mysteries solved! LOL!!
That must have been one interesting thread on Christianity being necessary for morality. hmmmm....must resist urge to make
judgemental caustic remark.
aaah, under control. Thank you Goddess. All is right in the Universe. Everyone is entitled to their opinions.
*sigh****
B. :)
silverleaf-
you put 10 socks in and get 9 back?? whats your secret? if i put 10 in (5 pairs), im lucky to get one matching pair back out.
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My dryer is a direct conduit to a universe where everyone has only one foot and they're not a greedy bunch fortunately. Perhaps you can recalibrate yours to my frequency.
Silverleaf