If you're dismissed from Bethel, are you eligible for unemployment?

by TresHappy 4 Replies latest jw friends

  • TresHappy
    TresHappy

    Or do they give you a new suit and $50.00 plus some subway tokens and does someone put a yellow ribbon around the ol' oak tree since you've done your time?

  • blondie
    blondie

    Bethelites would only be eligible for unemployment if the WTS pays into the state unemployment fund.

    Non-profit organizations have to file this form if they are not required to pay unemployment insurance.

    http://www.labor.state.ny.us/ui/PDFs/nys100n.pdf

    Non-profit Employers - A non-profit organization is one that is organized and operated exclusively for religious, charitable, scientific, literary or educational purposes. Generally, this includes all organizations that qualify for exemption under Section 501(c )( 3) of the Internal Revenue Code. Topics of interest for non-profit employers include:

    Liability under U.I. Law
    Benefit reimbursement option for non-profit employers
    Reporting requirements

    Types of Employment

    http://www.labor.state.ny.us/ui/dande/whoisemployer.shtm

    Non-covered employment: The services of certain employees are not covered under the Unemployment Insurance Law. Their earnings are not taxable, and they are not entitled to unemployment benefits based on such services.

    Sec 563 non-profit organizations. 1. Definition. A "non-profit organization" shall mean any corporation, unincorporated association, community chest, fund, or foundation organized and operated exclusively for religious, charitable, scientific, literary or educational purposes, no part of the net earnings of which inures to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual.

    Subd. 1 as amended by L. 1971, ch. 1027, effective January 1, 1972.

    (2) Exclusions . In addition to services not included pursuant to the provisions of section five hundred eleven, the term "employment" does not include services rendered for a non-profit organization by

    (a) a duly ordained, commissioned, or licensed minister of a church in the exercise of his ministry, or by a member of a religious order in the exercise of duties required by such order,
    (b) a lay member elected or appointed to an office within the discipline of a bona fide church and engaged in religious functions;
    (c) a person employed at a place of religious worship as a caretaker or for the performance of duties of a religious nature, or both, unless voluntary election has been made pursuant to the provisions of section five hundred sixty-one of this article;
    (d) a person who

  • unclebruce
    unclebruce
    Bethelites would only be eligible for unemployment if the WTS pays into the state unemployment fund.

    Geez what kind of heartless third world country you guys running over there?

    In Australia we aren't over joyed at our dole and pension rates but at least they are universal. Every citizen is entitled to the dole (currently arround $800AU / month) if they're unlucky enough to be unemployed or sick or get dumped by a multinational publishing empire.

    safetynet unc.

  • Uzzah
    Uzzah

    Canada is the same way. If you don't pay into the system you don't qualify for unemployment. Welfare yes, unemployment, no.
    So someone dismissed from Bethel would be left to either find immediate employment or go on welfare.
    Can't you just feel the love?!?!?

  • blondie
    blondie

    That's the way it goes in the US, most things are operated at the state level, not federal. The federal government assists but it is the state that makes the laws and doles out the money. Some states have more money than others.

    BTW, there is separation of church and state in the US. Thus religions pay few if any taxes, local, state or federal. If churches pay in no taxes for employment, then no taxes can be paid out to the people that work for them. Some churches do pay in as well as workers compensation, but it is voluntary.

    The closest thing to a universal dole is social security and even then to get money out, you have to work and pay in for 10 years or be the widow or widower of someone who did.

    The US is not organized nationally, but by the 50 states. The federal government has only the rights and powers that are specifically spelled out in the Constitution. Everything else is a power of the states.

    It helps then to understand why States Rights is such a touchy subject here and why the US went to war wthin itself from 1861-1865. Those states get mighty riled up when the feds tell them what to do.

    Blondie

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