Questions to ask yourself when YOU doubt- Remember this stuff?

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  • architect
    architect

    Just seeing if you all are AWAKE out there!

    My wife (JW for 12 years) and I (JW for 30 years) I was telling her about my doubts- then this what I get:

    w80 8/1pg 12-22 (some where in these pages)

    If insidious doubts ever begin to creep into his mind, the Christian would do well first to weigh the situation and ask himself a few pointed questions:

    Where did I learn that God’s name is Jehovah, what that name means, what is God’s loving purpose for mankind and why he has allowed suffering to go on so long on earth?—Ps. 83:18; Rev. 21:3, 4; 2 Pet. 3:9, 13.

    Who taught me that Jesus Christ is not a second part of a Trinitarian godhead, but Jehovah’s only-begotten Son, and who was it that helped me to understand the full meaning of redemption from sin through Christ’s ransom sacrifice?—John 3:16; 14:28; 1 Cor. 15:27, 28.

    What religion cleared up in my mind the question of the holy spirit, not a personal "Holy Ghost," but Jehovah’s active force, and where have I found a group of persons who sincerely endeavor to produce the fruitage of the spirit?—Acts 2:33; Gal. 5:22, 23; Col. 3:12-14.

    Which religious organization set me straight on the ancient pagan idea of the immortality of the human soul, proving from the Bible that the soul is mortal and thus giving real meaning to the Bible doctrine of the resurrection and freeing me from the God-dishonoring dogma of hellfire?—Ezek. 18:4; Acts 24:15; Rom. 6:23.

    Who has been preaching God’s kingdom as mankind’s only hope, and who has helped me to become aware that we are living in the "last days" and that we should "keep on the watch" for the coming of the Son of man?—Mark 13:10, 33-37; Luke 21:34-36; 2 Pet. 3:3-7.

    With whom have I found a real purpose in life, "the peace of God," protection from the temptations and pitfalls of this world and practical wisdom in solving life’s problems?—Matt. 24:45-47; 1 Tim. 3:15; Phil. 4:6-9.

    Finally, what group of Christians genuinely have ‘love among themselves’ (John 13:34, 35), really respect the principles outlined in John 17:14, 16 and Isaiah 2:4, and are persecuted, not because they meddle in politics, but simply ‘on account of Jesus’ name,’ that is, for being real Christians?—Matt. 24:9; John 15:18, 19.

    Does this make you want to come/go back?

  • Severus
    Severus

    Can you say: "Gulp down the camel"??

  • Double Edge
    Double Edge

    Funny, but any Christian religion can make a very similar list quoting scripture and taking the credit.

  • Scully
    Scully

    I remember hearing that line of Reasoning™ repeated at conventions almost every year. This tactic is a deliberate method of inducing guilt in the listeners, the same way a controlling parent brings up "everything I've done for you" in order to keep a child tethered in an unhealthy and dysfunctional relationship, when they should be growing up and becoming independent.

  • Merry Magdalene
    Merry Magdalene

    Ooooh fun! a list!

    Where did I learn that God’s name is Jehovah,--from my mother, a JW-- what that name means,--Strong's Concordance-- what is God’s loving purpose for mankind and why he has allowed suffering to go on so long on earth?--reading a non-NWT Bible, meditating, and praying-- —Ps. 83:18; Rev. 21:3, 4; 2 Pet. 3:9, 13.

    Who taught me that Jesus Christ is not a second part of a Trinitarian godhead,--JWs tried, through deceptively selective quoting-- but Jehovah’s only-begotten Son,--don't all Christians believe that?-- and who was it that helped me to understand the full meaning of redemption from sin through Christ’s ransom sacrifice?--not the JWs, not by a longshot, but Christ Himself-- —John 3:16; 14:28; 1 Cor. 15:27, 28.

    What religion cleared up in my mind the question of the holy spirit, not a personal "Holy Ghost," but Jehovah’s active force,--JWs tried, but the Holy Spirit set me straight-- and where have I found a group of persons who sincerely endeavor to produce the fruitage of the spirit?--right down the street at the local Presbyterian Church-- —Acts 2:33; Gal. 5:22, 23; Col. 3:12-14.

    Which religious organization set me straight on the ancient pagan idea of the immortality of the human soul, proving from the Bible that the soul is mortal and thus giving real meaning to the Bible doctrine of the resurrection and freeing me from the God-dishonoring dogma of hellfire?---- —Ezek. 18:4; Acts 24:15; Rom. 6:23.

    Who has been preaching God’s kingdom as mankind’s only hope--lots of folks--, and who has helped me to become aware that we are living in the "last days"--no one-- and that we should "keep on the watch" for the coming of the Son of man?--Jesus and most of his disciples, if I'm not mistaken; I hear this from many quarters-- —Mark 13:10, 33-37; Luke 21:34-36; 2 Pet. 3:3-7.

    With whom have I found a real purpose in life, "the peace of God," protection from the temptations and pitfalls of this world and practical wisdom in solving life’s problems?--with The Word Himself, who is the Way, the Truth, and the Life; and JWD helps, too-- —Matt. 24:45-47; 1 Tim. 3:15; Phil. 4:6-9.

    Finally, what group of Christians genuinely have ‘love among themselves’ (John 13:34, 35), really respect the principles outlined in John 17:14, 16 and Isaiah 2:4, and are persecuted, not because they meddle in politics, but simply ‘on account of Jesus’ name,’ that is, for being real Christians?--there is more than one "group" of them that I have noticed displaying love, not just among themselves, but, as Jesus said, also for others, even their "enemies," and some are even persecuted for being REAL Christians, not just because their beliefs and practices are both dangerous and annoying-- —Matt. 24:9; John 15:18, 19.

    ~Merry

  • drew sagan
    drew sagan

    It's so frustrating. The Watchtower Society creates a list of things that it does and calls it "true" Christianity. Then it says that anybody who dosn't do the things on their list hates God and is apostate.
    It's like going to a sales rep for UPS and asking "is Fedex or UPS better?". I wonder what their going to say????

  • AuldSoul
    AuldSoul

    Where did I learn that God’s name is Jehovah, what that name means, what is God’s loving purpose for mankind and why he has allowed suffering to go on so long on earth?—Ps. 83:18; Rev. 21:3, 4; 2 Pet. 3:9, 13.

    Who taught me that Jesus Christ is not a second part of a Trinitarian godhead, but Jehovah’s only-begotten Son, and who was it that helped me to understand the full meaning of redemption from sin through Christ’s ransom sacrifice?—John 3:16; 14:28; 1 Cor. 15:27, 28.

    What religion cleared up in my mind the question of the holy spirit, not a personal "Holy Ghost," but Jehovah’s active force, and where have I found a group of persons who sincerely endeavor to produce the fruitage of the spirit?—Acts 2:33; Gal. 5:22, 23; Col. 3:12-14.

    Which religious organization set me straight on the ancient pagan idea of the immortality of the human soul, proving from the Bible that the soul is mortal and thus giving real meaning to the Bible doctrine of the resurrection and freeing me from the God-dishonoring dogma of hellfire?—Ezek. 18:4; Acts 24:15; Rom. 6:23.

    Who has been preaching God’s kingdom as mankind’s only hope, and who has helped me to become aware that we are living in the "last days" and that we should "keep on the watch" for the coming of the Son of man?—Mark 13:10, 33-37; Luke 21:34-36; 2 Pet. 3:3-7.

    With whom have I found a real purpose in life, "the peace of God," protection from the temptations and pitfalls of this world and practical wisdom in solving life’s problems?—Matt. 24:45-47; 1 Tim. 3:15; Phil. 4:6-9.

    Finally, what group of Christians genuinely have ‘love among themselves’ (John 13:34, 35), really respect the principles outlined in John 17:14, 16 and Isaiah 2:4, and are persecuted, not because they meddle in politics, but simply ‘on account of Jesus’ name,’ that is, for being real Christians?—Matt. 24:9; John 15:18, 19.


    I love the way they arrogantly take credit for what they say came from God. It is the religion that teaches, in their dogma, not the holy spirit. (1 John 2:26-29)

    No, it doesn't make me want to go back. Considering the teaching on the mediatorship of Christ it makes me very glad I left.

    Respectfully,
    AuldSoul

  • spawn2u
    spawn2u

    I am just wondering where these good little JW's are coming from, reading and posting in a place that elders would likely have an issue. I would have never come to a place like this for fear that I would be turned instantly, well that was what they said would happen and I believed. Now the religion/sect/cult is making beievers but they are cutting back on the honesty or something because they are spilling out to places like here and I bet they are not being honest with the elders about posting here....Does Apostate literature mean anything to you?

  • blondie
    blondie

    I think of these scriptures and how as an organization, group, the WTS failed over and over and over.

    (Matthew 5:46-47) . . .. 46

    For if YOU love those loving YOU, what reward do YOU have? Are not also the tax collectors doing the same thing? 47 And if YOU greet YOUR brothers only, what extraordinary thing are YOU doing? Are not also the people of the nations doing the same thing?

    (John 13:34-35) 34

    I am giving YOU a new commandment, that YOU love one another; just as I have loved YOU, that YOU also love one another. 35 By this all will know that YOU are my disciples, if YOU have love among yourselves."

    (Proverbs 17:17) 17

    A true companion is loving all the time, and is a brother that is born for when there is distress.

  • zagor
    zagor

    Claim that witnoids have ‘love among themselves’ is the joke of the highest order.
    In fact, its the lack of it which drives eventually many out of this borganization.

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