Greatest Man and Lowliest Man How Possible?

by moomanchu 3 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  moomanchu

  WT Calls Jesus both to suit their needs.

  I believe the WT is Wrong in calling Jesus the lowliest one of mankind. They do this to apply a greater fullfilment of the prophecy at Dan 4.

  Two scriptures are cited to support the lowliest man stance they use, Matthew 11:28-30 and Phil.2:7,8.

  At Matthew Jesus states he is gentle and humble in heart. At Phil.2:7,8 once again Jesus humbled himself making himself nothing, taking the the nature of a servant. To me this makes him an even better(greater) man.

  Neb. was a crazy beast in the field, and before that he was a prideful ruler.

  Jesus was God's Son who chose to be meek.

  How does this make him lowly?

  How can you compare Jesus and Nebuchadnezzar as being the same types of people God likes to choose as a king?

  Nebuchadnezzar and Jesus, two lowly men, cut from the same cloth, who God chose to give kingships.

  It's crazy.(in my opinion)
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  Star Moore

  Dan. 4: 17 NIV " The decision is announced by messenger, the holy ones declare the verdict, so that the living may know that the Most High is sovereign over the kingdoms of men and gives them to anyone he wishes and sets over them the lowliest of men."

  Phil. 2: 7, 8 NIV "But made himself nothing, of a servant, being made in human likeness, And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death, even death on a cross."

  Math. 11:29 NIV "Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for you souls."

  Hello Moom,

  I believe that humble, and lowly is the opposite of haughty and proud. Also that Jesus was humble and lowly, like you said, out of choice. Nebuchanezzer was haughty and proud and God had to bring him down, and make him low. Don't you think humble means lowly.? I'm thinkin' so.
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  moomanchu

  Don't you think humble means lowly.?

  No,

  Moses was the most humble man on earth at his time but I don't think he was lowly.

  Was nebuchadnezzar humble when he was a beast? Is an animal humble just because its

  created an animal? I think humbleness is a quality you aquire (especially when the person is great)

  and lowliness is what station you are at in life.
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  Star Moore

  You are right, about this difference:

  I think humbleness is a quality you aquire (especially when the person is great)

  and lowliness is what station you are at in life.

  Let's see. Humbleness is also lowliness but, lowliness is neccessarily humbleness... Ahh, I think, I get it..