Paralells between "Maus" and the Watchtower

by ColdRedRain 3 Replies latest jw friends

  • ColdRedRain
    ColdRedRain

    Is anybody here familliar with the book "Maus"? It was about a holocaust survivor who couldn't cope in the real world. He had constant flashbacks and his relationships were always strained. He also had a strong survival instinct that made him stronger, even though he was scarred.

    I've noticed alot of XJW's who leave young tend to have Maus-like experiences. Being shut out from their society and struggling to make a new living. Their survival instincts are tough, but nobody can understand their background and their relationships are always strained.

    When I read Maus, I found many paralells between the 2 situations. Vladek was your typical survivor, even though he was very heroic, he has alot of emotional scars from his prior incarceration. So were a lot of XJW's you've left young, namley Jessika. Anyways, I thought it would be something cool to share.

  • damselfly
    damselfly

    Haven't read it but it sounds interesting.
    I agree that being an ExJW has made me stronger, I mean really once you've hit bottom and been abandoned by everybody you've ever know yet still survive and thrive? That's strength.

    <<Their survival instincts are tough, but nobody can understand their background and their relationships are always strained.>>

    Not sure if I agree with this or not. My first marriage was a little rocky and came about while I was first DF'D. All the JW issues were a big factor. But in the one I'm in now they don't come up as much. Maybe because I've been out for a while and have (finally) starting to deal with my past instead of supressing it? Who knows

    Dams

  • CaptainSchmideo
    CaptainSchmideo
    Is anybody here familliar with the book "Maus"? It was about a holocaust survivor who couldn't cope in the real world. He had constant flashbacks and his relationships were always strained. He also had a strong survival instinct that made him stronger, even though he was scarred.

    I would have to disagree a little bit with your assessment of Vladek Spiegelman. He actually coped quite well in "the real world". He did have his personality flaws, to be sure. He was stingy, miserly, a compulsive packrat, bigoted, and domineering. His son Art, who wrote the book "Maus", was worried that portraying his father so accurately would perpetuate the stereotype of the miserly Jew. Was his father this way because of life in the camps, or was it because of these traits that he managed to survive?

    Also, why was he able to cope with life after the camps, while Anja Spiegelman ultimately could not, and killed herself in the late 1960's, twenty years after Auschwitz?

    Ultimately, it boiled down to this:Those that survived that camps did not accomplish this because they were better than those who did not. Nice people died, not so nice survived. If surviving was "winning", did that mean that dying was losing?

    Art Spiegelman created a great work that dealt with surviving the most horrific of experiences, and how it can affect a person decades later. It's a complex work, made more accessible because of being in a comic book form. I first read it years ago, and I still re-read it frequently.

    His book, "In The Shadow of No Towers" is a great eyewitness account of 9/11 and the aftermath (he lives a mile from where the WTC used to be.) My favorite anecdote is about the old homeless women who used to curse at him every day in some foreign, incomprehensible language when he walked to his studio. The day after 9/11, she was cursing at him in completely understandable English.

    Some of his politics are a little too lefty for my liking, but he's a fascinating writer and artist. (and he created Wacky Packages and The Garbage Pail Kids, two of my favorite memories of childhood!).

  • penny2
    penny2
    nobody can understand their background and their relationships are always strained

    ColdRedRain I haven't read the book but I relate to your comments. It's almost impossible for outsiders to understand issues of growing up as a jw and leaving.

    It's hard to form relationships, especially as a fader, because eventually you have to take a stand. If you can't live without your jw family, you're basically stuck.

    Thankfully we have the internet and this forum!!

    penny2

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