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  Dogpatch

  Sleazy cult charlatans who will bait 'n switch their gospel to attract converts

  Jehovah's Witnesses spread message

  HOUSTON - Thurman Langford of the Jehovah's Witness Church travels in Chickasaw County from house to house, trying to help people to understand the ways and beliefs of the church. From door to door, Langford teaches of Heaven and Hell and tells of ...

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  -------- “ All people who died will be resurrected except those people who rejected Christ,” Langford said. “Muslims, Jews and Buddhists will be resurrected so long as they never rejected Christ.” ((Hmmm what about 'apostates' who reject the Watchtower leadership)) Published: Jun 21, 2006 - 05:04:53 pm CDT
  
  Jehovah's Witnesses spread message
  

  Editor's note: This article is part of a series on the diversity of religion in Chickasaw County.
  
  By Corey Warnick
  
  Chickasaw Journal
  
  HOUSTON - Thurman Langford of the Jehovah's Witness Church travels in Chickasaw County from house to house, trying to help people to understand the ways and beliefs of the church. From door to door, Langford teaches of Heaven and Hell and tells of what God's Kingdom is really about. Langford also gives the reason why the name Jehovah is so important to Christianity.

  “God gave animals and humans a name and He, too, has a name, Jehovah,” Langford said. “Throughout the years, the name Jehovah has been erased from the many Bible translations. We are trying to put God's name back into religion. You can't bond to friends if you don't know his name. In Isaiah 43, 10-12, it says ‘Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord and My servant whom I am chosen: therefore ye are my witnesses saith the Lord, that I am God'. In the older Bibles instead of saying God, it would say Jehovah.”
  
  Church history
  
  The Jehovah's Witnesses claim to come from back in the day when Jehovah was a more commonly used name in the Jewish Religion. However, there is no timeline that can be traced from then to now. Present day Jehovah's Witnesses organized in 1931 from a group of people sharing the same beliefs about Jehovah and their particular ways of interpreting the Bible.
  
  Langford explained, “Although God made Adam and Eve perfect and without sin, the potential to sin was always present. Man, though perfect, was not as perfect as Jehovah so when the devil came to the Garden of Eden with the idea of sinning, Eve saw that the fruit was something to be longed for to the eyes, and acted upon her new-found desire. If Adam and Eve had not sinned, then they would have lived forever in paradise. Jehovah then said they would turn back into the dust from which they were made. Once we are turned into dust there is no knowledge and you do not exist. This place of non-existence is called Hell. In Ecclesiastes 9: 10 it is stated, ‘Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might, for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.' Just as an animal's soul would not exist after death so does a humans'.”
  
  Langford went on to say that when Jesus came to earth, the possibility of resurrection became open to all humans.
  
  “All people who died will be resurrected except those people who rejected Christ,” Langford said. “Muslims, Jews and Buddhists will be resurrected so long as they never rejected Christ.” Jesus Christ is the King of Jehovah's Kingdom. The Capitol of the Kingdom in the past was Jerusalem and the last King to sit on the throne was in 607 B.C.E. When the Babylonians destroyed Jerusalem, Jehovah told the King to remove his crown ending the last government on earth to represent his rule. At the end Jehovah says that Jesus will rule from Heaven with 144,000 associates.” [email protected] letter to editor [email protected] news tips ----------------------------------------- (unrelated below from a JW troll who lies that he is one the scum of the earth) http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=912212006 from here To the 'Danny' that replied in comment number 11 (which is almost probably the same Danny at comments 6 and 16 as their websites point to the same one)..... CHILL DUDE!!! I am not a JW, assumption is the mother of all f*** ups. If you consider what i wrote to be a 'personal attack' then i guess you must be over sensitive, so you better be sitting down while you read the rest of this! This article was about the prohibition of unsolicited door to door activities BY ANYONE! If you were to survey 100 people and asked them who were the most likely people to go knocking on doors unsolicited, you most likely would get the same 2 answers - salesmen and JW's. As for 'slamming' other religions - tell me... am i wrong? How many deaths do you think JW's have been responsible for in warfare as opposed to other religions? I have had JW's call at my door and they have never demanded anything! They got a message to bring (like a salesman has) if you dont like it - tell them to go away! I guess this stems from your upbringing in a JW enviroment. WOW - they must have really really f***ed you up for you to react like this? So you you dont like JW's - i dont like salesmen.. what shall i do - making a flippin website about how much i hate them and spread my hatred for them in places that are clearly not even close to appropriate? FFS - You must have 'JW Google email alert' to be informed of an article on a website in a country thousands of miles from you that contain the word "Jehovahs Witness" just so you can spread your hate a bit further !!! UNREAL!! The editors of our beloved scotsman made the same quip about salesmen and JW's as anyone would when covering unsolicited door to door activity and they included it in the article title - so if *I* dont have the right to 'slam' other religions then you dont either! Your a hypocrite on a crusade to nowhere. Your message about how much you hate JW's doesnt even come close to being appropriate here - as the article is TOTALY about informing us of what Angus Council is doing, and whether we as scottish residents approve or disagree with their approach to manipulating our lives with THEIR legislature. Once again Danny - GET OVER IT! Spread your message in a more appropriate place where it is completely RELEVANT to do so. Unrespectfully yours, Patrick
  
  Watchtower Jehovah's Witness Whistleblower Remember-You just can't fool all the people all the time,you can only fool all of the people some of the time,or some of the people all of the time.
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  DannyHaszard

  ("In this area, I would say that maybe 25 percent won't speak to us at all. Another 50 percent will listen to us but not do anything about it. Twenty-five percent want to pursue it," he said, referring to Bible studies with the Jehovah's Witnesses, whose denomination acknowledges salvation for some, but believes that others, as Mr. Vogelwede put it, "lose consciousness and return to dust." ) Jehovah's Witnesses Spread an Invitiation in New Milford comment box
  Litchfield County Times, CT - 13 minutes ago
  The convention continues through Sunday, and in anticpation of it the Jehovah's Witnesses had sent out a press release announcing the intention of reaching out ... NEW MILFORD-Although they trace their roots to the late 19th century in Western Pennsylvania, the Jehovah's Witnesses, who take their cue from the biblical verse in the Book of Acts that says, "You know that I have not hesitated to preach anything that would be helpful to you but have taught you publicly and from house to house," have been conducting door-to-door visits in New Milford as a prelude to the district's annual convention that begins today in Newburgh, N.Y. The convention continues through Sunday, and in anticpation of it the Jehovah's Witnesses had sent out a press release announcing the intention of reaching out to every resident of New Milford. "There's air conditioning, nice comfortable chairs and cafeteria facilities," said New Milford resident Mark Voglewede, describing elements of the denomination's new assembly hall in Newburgh. "It's a beautiful facility. Weather isn't a problem." Mr. Voglewede, who began ministering for Jehovah's Witnesses as a child, said 2,000 to 3,000 persons are expected to attend the event.
  "Some are from the area. They'll be different states assigned to this convention," he said, referring to the speakers. "They are very qualified speakers from within those states," he said, referring to members of the denomination who will speak. "Basically what takes place is a series of talks that are designed to encourage us, using scriptures from the Bible, and to help us recognize that deliverance is near, which is the theme of the convention," Mr. Voglewede said. "To be a Witness you must be a preacher," said a spokesperson for the religious denomination, speaking from the group's global headquarters in Brooklyn, N.Y., who asked that his remarks be attributed to JR Brown. "Our ministry is so well known. It's what defines Jehovah's Witnesses," he said, referring to the printed booklets the groups, whose legal entity is the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, distribute.
  Several congregations make up a circuit, and two circuits complete a district. There are two congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses, whose membership numbers 6.7 million worldwide, in New Milford, and they began distributing invitations to the Newburgh event June 2. "We do make an effort to reach everyone. The challenge that we face today is that people are so busy with life. They have less time to give to a day-to-day sermon," Mr. Brown said. "There's no dress code," he said, with regard to the conservative manner in which Jehovah's Witnesses seem to dress. "You would typically see someone in a shirt and tie. It varies as often as someone's personality." "That's encouraged," affirmed Mr. Volgewede, who tries to devote two to three hours a week to ministering, of the Jehovah's Witnesses conservative dress. "Let's say, you were going to go to a wedding. There's a certain dignity to the occasion. Since we're respecting God, men wear a shirt, tie and slacks, and women will wear a nice dress."
  "I was probably about 5 or 6 years old when I started in the ministry," said Mr. Volgewede, who observed he grew up near Zanesville, Ohio.
  He said he was living in Georgia when he met Lucia, who would become his wife. "Her sister had lived in the area. We decided to relocate to this community," he said, referring to New Milford. "We've been here for about 13 years now." Mr. Vogelwede's congregation ministers to northern New Milford, Kent, Washington and Warren. "A lot of people may not be at home," he said, concerning the reception that the Witnesses get when they appear at doorways. "Most people listen to what we have to say. They'll allow us to read from the Bible. Some would just rather not talk to us. Of course, we respect that." "In this area, I would say that maybe 25 percent won't speak to us at all. Another 50 percent will listen to us but not do anything about it. Twenty-five percent want to pursue it," he said, referring to Bible studies with the Jehovah's Witnesses, whose denomination acknowledges salvation for some, but believes that others, as Mr. Vogelwede put it, "lose consciousness and return to dust." "In the more affluent areas, they may be satisfied with their life," he said, when pressed further on the reception the Witnesses get, and why. "Perhaps they're not as directly impacted by things as those that are struggling to make a living. They may be content with how their life is. ..."
  Against the backdrop of a society in which religion has become more prominent both culturally and politically, Mr. Volgewede said in some ways the Witnesses' Bible-based ministering has become more difficult. "They see some of the hypocrisy in religion today. That turns them off."
  On the other hand, Mr. Volgewede said others find the world tumbling from one problem to the next. "Those types of individuals who are searching for the truth are most interested," he said.
  The annual convention, whose theme is "Deliverance at Hand," will extend across 155 countries, with more than 260 district conventions taking place in the United States. The ministry has roughly one million members in this country, the spokesperson in New York said. --------------- [email protected] contact
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  rebel8

  Posted some comments on that site for ya Danny.
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  parakeet

  ***Man, though perfect, was not as perfect as Jehovah.....***
  
  Isn't that just a classic line? As if there are degrees of perfection. Reminds me of the line in Orwell's "Animal Farm" that the pigs used to justify their oppression: "Some animals are more equal than others."
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  VM44

  "...Man, though perfect, was not as perfect as Jehovah....."

  That statement doesn't even make any sense!

  I think he should understand what the word "perfect" means. That is assuming that he hasn't created his own private definition for the word.

  --VM44
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  VM44

  "Just as an animal's soul would not exist after death so does a humans'.”

  Unless the human is one of the 144,000, then their "soul" lives on within a spiritual being in heaven."

  It makes for a very consistent theology.

  --VM44
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  Poztate

  In this area, I would say that maybe 25 percent won't speak to us at all. Another 50 percent will listen to us but not do anything about it. Twenty-five percent want to pursue it," he said, referring to Bible studies with the Jehovah's Witnesses

  25% BULL He is living in his own little world. I noted not much was said about how we get "delivered soon" namely the destruction of 6 billion or so humans.
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  greendawn

  It's the usual propaganda repeated parrot like by the R&F who have never checked out other views. The apostles didn't use the name jehovah and their lives were centred around Christ not the old testament.
  
  And jehovah said to the Jews they would be, not called, his witnesses of his miraculous power as opposed to the nations whose Gods could not perform miracles and thus their worshippers could not possibly witness and verify these.