I was reading the book 'apocalypse delayed' by james penton and came to the part that disucessed the crackdown that occured in the org during the early 1980's. One of the referances made note to a talk that was recorded in which Fred Franz spoke to a congregation in Queens, NY and yelled at them in spanish. Has this ever made it's was to the internet? Just curious.
Just wanted to add that he yelled at them to follow the faithful and discreet slave class and not to fall from the organization. This was in response to a few 'apostate' Elders that had been taking the lead. It wasn't Franzs congregation, but he and some other Brooklyn guys decided to clean the place up so the story goes.
Fred Franz yelling in spanish?
by drew sagan 6 Replies latest jw friends
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drew sagan
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VM44
Sounds like Fred was practicing some Cowboy Theocracy! --VM44
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ICBehindtheCurtain
I remember, I was there , damn I wish I would have recorded it, but I was young and stupid then. It was quite a shock to see little Freddie and other "Big Wigs" show up all at once, all you could here at first was the murmuring of many voices wondering what was going to happen. Needless to say he was quite pissed!!
IC
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under_believer
FRANZ: ¿Esclavo fiel y discreto? ¡Te demostraré el esclavo fiel y discreto, perras! ¡Conseguir en tus rodillas!
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VM44
What was being said (or done) in the congregation that was so upsetting to Fred Franz and the other heavies from Bethel? --VM44
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drew sagan
Penton says in his book that there was 2 Elders in the congregation that where possible apostates so they decided to go take care of the congregation directly. First they cancelled the public talk that was supposed to be given and had somebody else give one addressing the 'problem', then Fred went on and barked up a storm. That's how it is related. It was right around the time when Ray was let go.
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truthsetsonefree
Ray was I believe in a Queens congregation.