How Many Great Disappointments Can There Be?

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  • Country Girl
    Country Girl

    Where were the followers of Charles Taze Russell on the morning of the Great Disappointment? Were they also waiting on a hillside somewhere? I am not sure where in JW history this took place; or if the Bible Students participated in this; anyone know what stage of JW history this took place in? This entry says that many Christian religions took part in this belief. Did that include the followers of Russell? Doesn't the Bible say that if anyone makes predictions and they don't come true -- that is the mark of a False Prophet? How can the JW's deny this part of their history?

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    Great Disappointment

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    The Great Disappointment was a period in the early history of certain Christian denominations in the United States, which began when Jesus failed to reappear on the appointed day of October 22, 1844 as some Christians had expected. William Miller

    Between 1831 and 1844, William Miller, a Baptist preacher, launched what has been called by historians as Second Great Awakening, of which the Millerite movement was a major part. Miller preached a set of fourteen rules for the interpretation of the Bible. [1] Based on his study of the prophecy of Daniel 8:14 , Miller calculated that Jesus would return to Earth sometime between 21 March 1843 and 21 March 1844. [2] After the latter date came and went, the date was revised and set as October 22, 1844 based on the yearly Day of Atonement in Karaite Judaism.

    When Jesus did not appear, Miller's followers experienced what came to be called "the Great Disappointment". Most of the thousands of followers left the movement. A few, however, went back to their Bibles to find out why they had been disappointed. A group of the remaining followers concluded that the prophecy predicted not that Jesus would return to earth in 1844, but that the investigative judgement in heaven would begin in that year.

    Miller recorded his personal disappointment in his memoirs: "Were I to live my life over again, with the same evidence that I then had, to be honest with God and man, I should have to do as I have done. I confess my error, and acknowledge my disappointment." [3] Miller continued to wait for the second coming until his death in 1849.

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    Seventh-day Adventists

    Seventh-day Adventist Church historians writing about the morning of October 23 refer to a vision said to have been received by Hiram Edson (1806-1882), an early Adventist. [citation needed] Edson claimed he had a vision that indicated the date predicted by Miller was in fact correct. Later Bible study and visions led to the belief by the early Seventh-day Adventists that Christ went into the second apartment of the heavenly sanctuary in 1844 to begin the investigative judgment of both righteous and wicked to see who is worthy of going to heaven. [4] This investigative judgment is said to take place prior to his second coming, which they believe to be very soon. A number of issues related to the doctrine of this investigative judgement were raised by Adventist theologian Desmond Ford in the 1970s. [edit]

    Charles Taze Russell and Jehovah's Witnesses

    Jonas Wendell, an Adventist preacher, experienced periods of weak faith after 1844. After studying bible chronology, he came to the conclusion that the Second Coming would be in 1868, and in 1870 published a booklet concluding it was to be in 1873.

    Charles Taze Russell was in turn influenced by Jonas Wendell (as well as by the Millerites in general), and predicted the Second Coming for 1874. One-time Millerite ministers George Storrs (1796-1879) and George Stetson proved to be a great assistance and guide to the development and growth of his worldwide ministry, the Bible Student movement. A schism in that movement occurred in 1933, where the leadership changed the date of the Second Coming to 1914. The main branch of that movement came to be known as the Jehovah's Witnesses, while many members refused the change; Bible Students today still hold that the Second Coming was in 1874. [edit]

    Religious Studies

    The Great Disappointment is viewed as an example of how the psychological phenomenon of cognitive dissonance manifests itself through failed prophecies which often arise in a religious context. [5] The theory was proposed by Leon Festinger to describe the formation of new beliefs and increased proselyting in order to reduce the tension, or dissonance, that results from failed prophecies. According to the theory, believers experienced tension following the failure of Jesus' reappearance in 1844 which led to a variety of new explanations. The various solutions form a part of the teachings of the different groups that outlived the disappointment. [edit]

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    Bahá'í

    Members of the Bahá'í Faith believe that Miller's interpretation of signs and dates of the coming of Jesus were, for the most part, correct. They believe that the fulfillment of biblical prophecies of the coming of Christ came through a fore-runner of their own religion, the Báb , who declared that he was the "Promised One" on May 23, 1844, and began openly teaching in Persia in October 1844. [6] Several Bahá'í books and pamphlets make mention of the Millerites and the prophecies used by Miller, most notably William Sears ' Thief in the Night. [3] [edit]

    Joe Pena

    It is widely known now that Joe Pena also served in the Great Disappointment drama. Joe Pena was a recently converted Adventist in the 1830's from Mexico. He was ordained as a pastor and was present at the meeting to see Jesus return. It is reported that Joe Pena himself was present at the start of the meeting, but mysteriously disappeared at the end, which led him to earn the nickname amongst the Adventists of the time of the "Mexican Disappointment." [edit]

    References

    1. ^ Miller's Rules of Scriptural Interpretation
    2. ^ Miller Mistakenly Set a Date for Christ's Return
    3. ^ a b Sears, William (1961). Thief in the Night. London: George Ronald. ISBN 085398008X.
    4. ^ 28 Fundamental SDA beliefs #24
    5. ^ James T. Richardson. Encyclopedia of Religion and Society: Cognitive Dissonance. Hartland Institute. Retrieved on 2006-07-09.
    6. ^ Hatcher, William S. and Martin, J. Douglas (1998). The Bahá'í Faith: The Emerging Global Religion. Wilmette, Illinois, USA: Bahá'í Publishing Trust. ISBN 0877432643.
    • Stone, Jon R. (2000). Expecting Armageddon: Essential Readings in Failed Prophecy. Routledge. ISBN 041592331X.
    Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Disappointment"
  • BluesBrother
    BluesBrother

    Now I know where the WTS "Prophetic rule " of taking a day for a year, came from.. I aways used to wonder when I faithfully used the scriptures .

    III. I will now show some proof that days in prophetic chronology are used for years. All must agree, that God has in many places, and at divers times, revealed future things in figures, emblems, types and allegories; and, as I believe, for wise and benevolent purposes. The most prominent is, that in order to get anything clear, the Bible student must study the whole. And as it respects the matter under consideration, days being put for years: If God had revealed himself plainly by using plain language instead of figures; if he had said, "Unto 2300 years from the time that Ezra would be sent up from Babylon to restore the law and captives, &c., to the time when the end of the world should come," many men of the world would reject the whole Bible because of these words.

    William Miller and the Millerite Movement!!

  • Wasanelder Once
    Wasanelder Once

    As you can see, Russell was an after effect of the "Great Dissapointment". He came along afterwards and inherited thier wacky Bible voodoo dates. He wasn't on the roof in 1844 awaiting the Lord with the Millerites. As the info posted shows, he took up the torch from the wreckage of the "Great Dissapointment."

    It is we who are now victims of the Watchtower Great dissapointment, 1975.....

    W.Once (of the still dissapointed class.)

  • mkr32208
    mkr32208

    One every few years until the human race evolves to a higher species or wipes itself out... WHAT A WONDERFUL FEELING!

  • Satanus
    Satanus
    Bahá'í

    Members of the Bahá'í Faith believe that Miller's interpretation of signs and dates of the coming of Jesus were, for the most part, correct. They believe that the fulfillment of biblical prophecies of the coming of Christ came through a fore-runner of their own religion, the Báb , who declared that he was the "Promised One" on May 23, 1844, and began openly teaching in Persia in October 1844. [6] Several Bahá'í books and pamphlets make mention of the Millerites and the prophecies used by Miller, most notably William Sears ' Thief in the Night. [3]

    Ya, another phoney religion that hides it's dirty laundry, while trying to infect others.

    S

  • SirNose586
    SirNose586

    So that's what the Bahai believe, eh? They are right next to our hall. Their parking lot is really nice but we can't park in it.

  • Gill
    Gill

    When you read a great thread like this, thanks country girl, you don't know whether to laugh or cry.

    Just the history of the whole belief system is ridiculous. I look at myself and think 'you ass! How can you have been so stupid!'

    I look at relatives and former friends and think...very much the same really.

    But in the end, it just seems so funny!

    But it's only when you look at the big picture that it all begins to make sense. People are so gullible and are easily forced into complying with their parents ridiculous beliefs.

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