LOGICAL PROOF THAT JW IS A FALSE RELIGION.

by Santisimo 9 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Santisimo
    Santisimo

    The following is logical and indisputable proof that the religion of the WTS is false. Assume that this were a conversation between a JW and a non-believer (non believer shown in red). This example will show you how clear the logic is:

    "Do you believe that blood transfusions are acceptable?" . The Witness will respond by saying that transfusions are contrary to their beliefs.

    "Where is this teaching found in the Bible?". He or she will now proceed to read from Genesis 9:4 where it says that flesh was acceptable to eat, but not blood.

    "Stupid question, but this is in the Old Testament, the Hebrew Scriptures right?". The JW will now confirm that it is in the Old Testament.

    "Did God ever cancel the observance of this law? If so, please show me.". The JW will tell you that such law has always been in effect.

    "If this law was still in force, then all the others should still be in place. After all, if any of the laws were abolished by God, it would have been recorded in the scriptures correct?". The JW will once again agree with you.

    "Do Witnesses believe that they are a true religion?". The JW will probably smile at this question an say "yes" without hesitation.

    "Is it because they do everything that is commanded in the Bible?". The JW will again confirm your statement in the affirmative.

    "So if the JWs believe their religion is true, why is it that they only follow this commandment and none of the others? What about the commandment to observe the Sabbath? What about the commandment to obstain from pork and shellfish? If Jesus' sacrifice 'abolished' The Law, why is it that you still follow the commandment to stay away from blood?" You can be sure that at this point, the JW will have no response to this, there is no logical response to this question. There is no response that would help a JW prove that their religion is true if they can't prove this statement wrong.

    "If Jesus came here to put an end to the law, why did he observe the Passover? Why did he tell his followers to observe the commandments and the direction of the rabbis at Matthew 23?". There will be no answer to this.

    "One last question, why is it that the first congregation of followers of Jesus observed ALL the commandments in the Hebrew Scriptures and you don't?" At this point, any JW will try to close the conversation and refer you to one of their elders for a response. Why? Because most Christians (except for educated clergy and some JW elders) are unaware that the first congregation that existed after the death of Jesus was made up of mostly Jews. Yes, the first followers of Jesus were Jews. The gentiles who did believe in Jesus had to first learn to practice Judaism and observe its laws in order to join the congregation. James was a prime example of this and furthermore, he was known as the first leader of this congregation. After he was killed by other Jews who didn't believe Jesus was the messiah it was Paul who took over the church. It was Paul who removed the obligation of observance of the commandments. In essence, all modern-Christians are followers of Paul, not Jesus. Why? Jesus lived and died as a practicing Jew. Perhaps not the best example of a Jew, but a Jew regardless.

    The JWs and the WTS believe that they have the 'true religion'. The fact is that they don't and they are just as far from 'the truth' as any other Christian religion would be. If anything, they have confused matters more by forcing it's members to follow ONE of God's direct commandments to mankind, yet ignoring the dozens of others that were given. Logically, this does not add up. A TRUE religion follows ALL OF GODS COMMANDMENT'S, not man's, not Paul's and certainly not those of a mysterious 'governing body'.

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    (Acts 15:19-20) . . .Hence my decision is not to trouble those from the nations who are turning to God, 20 but to write them to abstain from things polluted by idols and from fornication and from what is strangled and from blood.

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

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    The command to Noah also applies to Christians. In the first century C.E., the Christian governing body published the decision, backed by the holy spirit, that Christians must ‘abstain from things strangled and from blood.’ (Acts 15:19, 28, 29) What would that mean in practice? The expression "things strangled" designates the flesh of animals that were killed in a manner that left their blood in the meat. Christians could not eat such flesh. How about the phrase ‘abstain from blood’? This would prohibit the using of blood drained from such a creature, as in the case of some pagans, who made and ate blood sausage or other blood-containing foods or who drank blood that came from animals or warriors killed in the arena. Christians would not do any of these things. When they drained blood from a creature, they would do what God’s servants in the past had done, abstain from it. They could thus underscore their appreciation for the sacredness of blood and life and also demonstrate their dependence on the merit of Christ’s blood.

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

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    arecommandedtoabstainfromblood

    Acts 15:28, 29: "The holy spirit and we ourselves [the governing body of the Christian congregation] have favored adding no further burden to you, except these necessary things, to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled [or, killed without draining their blood] and from fornication. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you!" (There the eating of blood is equated with idolatry and fornication, things that we should not want to engage in

  • lovelylil
    lovelylil

    Hi welcome to the forum!

    Are you saying that Christians must become Jews first? If so, I believe you are mistaken. You are right that Jesus only preached to Jews and most of the early congregation was made up of Jews. But, after Jesus resurrection he gave the command to preach to all the nations, or the Gentiles. Matthew 28:19,20

    Romans 1:5 - shows calling of gentiles and does not say they must become Jews first

    Romans 1:13 - shows a harvest among the Jews and then the gentiles, they were different but worshipped the same God and Christ. Paul when referring to Gentiles would say "now I am addressing you Gentiles", why would he say this if they all became Jews? They are "spiritual" Jews not literal ones. They are not held to the old customs given to the Jewish nation.

    In Acts a dispute arose between the Jewish Christians and Gentile ones regarding circumcision and whether or not this applied to the Gentile believers and Paul said no it did not. Some of the Jewish believers tried to hold them to Jewish customs but this was an error on their part. Lilly

  • IP_SEC
    IP_SEC
    LOGICAL PROOF THAT JW IS A FALSE RELIGION.

    Fair enough because logically all religion is false.

    Now this law you speak of being canceled. Gen 9, given to Noah- not Moses, was not part of the mosaic law that was canceled. If you go by the common way of looking at the bible it was its own little entity that just got restated in the Law. So your logic is a little flawed eh? Not saying your conclusion about blood is wrong. But of your argument, as we say in texas "that dog wont hunt"

    Truth be known though, the Law prolly had an effect on the writer who made up the Gen 9 story any how so I'll give you half credit, E for effort... sumthin .

    Welcome to the forum.

  • MinisterAmos
    MinisterAmos

    JW's will argue that since the blood issue is covered in the NT as well that it is still valid.

    It being valid means that they can call upon the OT scriptures regarding blood to back their claims. But so can you

    Lev 17:13 "throw it out and cover it with dirt"

    So why does the WT allow the use of donated blood to make their blood fractions? That certainly is not in line with the heart of the blood abstention order.

  • Arthur
    Arthur

    I would tend to think that all of the false prophecies would be proof enough.

  • Shazard
    Shazard

    Since when JW respect logic?

  • greendawn
    greendawn

    They will argue that abstain from blood is a Christian command that carried over from the Jewish law along with avoiding fornication and idol worship. Whatever abstain from blood means it doesn't cover blood transfusions because they do not involve the loss of life or otherwise harming anyone, afterall blood is donated voluntarily as an act of kindness towards others. The Jews themselves accept them. Only a twisted cult could perceive them as being wrong.

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