Hypnotherapy to excape

hamsterbait

I have tried ways of overcoming the "cult programming" -

I tried Lady Lees suggestions, and they really work. Getting accurate information to counter vague threats with facts does too.

I am just so tired of using my only minutes in this world sitting and thinking about trigger phrases, manipulation and guilting. I want just to cut the straps on the backpack and dump it NOW.

Has anybody had hypnotherapy to shortcut the recovery process? I am thinking along the lines of TA - get well as quickly as possible, and analise what the problem WAS, later - if you can be bothered.

I am so eager to start living my way, I cannot see myself being remotely bothered.

HB (of the Hypno Babble(bible) class)

juni

I'll try posting this again.

Hi Hamsterbait!

No. I've never had hypnotherapy. I have heard of people who tried it for quitting smoking with little results.

Sorry I can't be of more help.

Juni

I don't know much about hypnotherapy so cannot recommend for or against. I don't know your circumstances, but if you can manage it, a trip or a college class might be therapeutic. It could take your mind off the treadmill it's on by allowing you to concentrate on something completely different for a while. Even if you do nothing, time will eventually loosen the WT's hold on you. Good luck to you.

MegaDude

Hypnotherapy is helpful.

The problem is it doesn't produce permanent results unless you constantly reinforce the suggestions by your will and by your behavior.

I would suggest that taking the time to decide what your BELIEFS are is much more important as they control your life.

I don't think a shortcut exists where you can quickly dump all the baggage or the majority of your baggage, but you can move quicker through the process by deciding what you will believe and disciplining yourself to act and behave accordingly. Expect that there is a part of you that will resist and will fight. This is normal. It has been said by one famous psychologist that the human being possesses two main drives: the will to survive and the will to do the familiar. It might be quite difficult for a while.

Hypnosis by a good hypnotist is very relaxing. And it is pleasant to have someone lead you into deep conscious relaxation and give you positive suggestions for change. If you view the hypnotist as an authority figure or person to listen to, his or her suggestions may spur you to be motivated to act and feel differently and you may feel euphoric for a while and make changes. But many people who have gone through hypnosis complain the "change" wore off. I would say the inspiration wore off because the people didn't make changes in their beliefs. The mind is impressed on more by conscious effort than positive suggestions in my opinion.

Satanus

I had a few sessions. W the first therapist, nothing worked. His manner and a language accent were a problem. The second one i saw, the first session was very helpful and seems to have permanent effect. It was a reconnection w one of my grandmothers. In the second session, he had me visualise erasing all the negatives in my early life. That didn't work. However, that time, my body got really, really relaxed. That was a good thing. It may be that i needed to aclimate to being hypnotised. Also, you might need to shop around to find one that works for you.

S

Big Tex

Hypnosis should be done as a last resort only. Be very careful, as there are no real shortcuts in recovery (whether that is drugs, alcohol, religion -- irregardless of the subject). Your real fight is against yourself, perhaps fears or mistrust or belief in yourself, I'm not sure. The cultish teachings played on those parts of yourself and used them against you. This is where you are now.

you can move quicker through the process by deciding what you will believe and disciplining yourself to act and behave accordingly. Expect that there is a part of you that will resist and will fight. This is normal

I want to echo what megadude and Satanus had to say. I used hypnotherapy when I was recovering from abuse issues. It is helpful in the short term, but it does not work as a panacea for every problem. Of course, a hypnotherapist is like any other therapist, there must be a good match; the way he/she talks and conducts themselves has to mesh with you. In other words, it's like dating. You've got to hit it off in other words.

A hypnotherapist will, at best, be able to speak to your subconscious. But even then, it will be you who makes the change not the hypnotherapist.

Recovery is a process. It takes time and lots of effort. It is desire meeting hard work. In your case I'd recommend giving yourself permission to think differently and to believe differently. It is normal to fight against change, especially from a sect like this one. Everyone goes through this.

Chris

outoftheorg

I tried Hypnotherapy one time.

For some reason or another the hypnotist was unable to hypnotize me. Then he got angry with me. I decided that I didn't need him.

I then found this forum and I would look up the different teachings of jw's and read over and over a couple of times.

Then I would out loud tell myself "do this in private so you won't look like a nut" how stupid and dishonest this belief is and how the wbts deliberately lies.

Once I was convinced that the wbts deliberately lies to us and really don't give a damn about its followers, it became easier to throw out the stupid demands and guilt trips they put on me.

It took a little time, but I enjoyed this site and after a while, I had no more of the feelings you are talking about.

Outoftheorg