IT HAS BEEN SUGGESTED THAT URFA/URRHAI IN SE TURKEY WAS THE UR THAT ABRAHAM CAME FROM.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
WAS ABRAHAM'S UR IN SE TURKEY?
by badboy 7 Replies latest jw friends
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Borgia
ref?
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Borgia
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badboy
I READ THIS IN BEFORE THEFLOOD by IAN WILSON,quoting from a Biblical Archaeological Review from 2000.
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cyrus
Ur of the chaldees was in mesopatamia modern iraq not asia minor ie turkey along with many other ancient old testament citys.ur was believed to nbe the first cosmopolitan city of the ancient world older than babylon so when ab left it must have been quite a shock for his family.It would have been like a family becoming jws and accepting thier teachings the breadwinners becoming pioneers and not having a pot to piss in after being quite wealthy
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Nosferatu
Abraham's urine what?
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badboy
COME TO THINK ABOUT IT, IT PROBERLY WAS IN MESOPOTAMIA.
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Leolaia
Actually Urfa (known in Roman times as Edessa in eastern Syria) is a Mesopotamian city; the Euphrates and Tigris extend up to modern SE Turkey and Syria. Locating Abram's Ur in northern Mesopotamia is attractive because Abram is also associated with the city of Haran (11:31-32, 12:4-5), and is described as having relatives there (27:43, 28:10), and because all the other names of Abram's forbears (e.g. Serug, Peleg, Nahor, Terah, Shelah, etc.) are similarly associated with northern Mesopotamian towns. The main piece of evidence against it is the characterization of the city as "Ur of the Chaldeans" (11:28, 31, 15:7, Nehemiah 9:7), which in exilic and post-exilic literature refers to Babylonia (cf. Ezekiel 12:13, 23:23; cf. Judith5:5-9). Such a designation however is late, i.e. after the rise of the Neo-Babylonian kingdom in the seventh century BC, and not necessarily part of the original ancestral tradition (cf. pre-exilic Isaiah 29:22, Micah 7:20), so it is possible that a lesser-known Ur in the patriarchical tradition was later replaced by the better-known city in Babylonia. However, the density of Babylonian allusions in the primeval history may also support an original understanding that the Ur was the southern city in Mesopotamia. Both possibilities seem plausible.
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badboy
thanks for the input,leololia