How can I help my kids?

by Palsnpets 5 Replies latest social family

  • Palsnpets
    Palsnpets

    Hi all,

    My problems a complex one. My 36 yr old husband after ten years of marriage (abusive), left me for a 19 yr old girl.

    I am not religous at all and either was my ex at the time.

    Thats fine with me, I'm way over it and have a new man who is wonderful. The problem is the girl was a JW and now he has joined the church. He is also Bi-polar. He has the kids one night a fortnight and half school holidays. He takes the kids to church, etc. The kids are 9,7 and 5.

    It has been nearly two yrs since he left and they have all forgotting the abuse we suffered. They now think he is the most wonderful guy in the world, they keep talking about church, etc.

    I also found out through conversations with the children that because the girl split up my marriage she is not allowed to talk to anyone else from the church, when she goes to church she can only enter last, she must lower her head and must leave without being seen before the service is over. She is to sit in the car until my ex is ready to leave.

    I fear that this whole thing will leave my children with a slanted view on life, they may fall vicim to the church and think that this is how people are to be treated.

    Please help me I don't know how to deal with this issue. If anyone has any compents that may help it would be welcome.

    Thanks.

  • megsmomma
    megsmomma

    The best advise I can give you is to use this as an oppertunity to teach your kids what JW's believe and how many people suffer (like the girl) from the lack of love in this Organization.

    Like it or not, there is a-lot of research to be done....or questions to ask on this board so you can combat whatever they are being taught. Try to keep up with what they are being told, so you can show them what the Bible really says about those things. JW's mostle take things way out of context. Also, if they are enjoying a church atmosphere, it might be really good to take them to a different church to show them how nice "non-Jw's" are too.

    Feel free to ask anything here! And welcome!

  • drew sagan
    drew sagan

    I posted on your other tread as well.

    Just wanted to add some of the things you can learn about this organization that will be helpful.

    - Become familiar with their literature. Some of their most current books include "What does the Bible Really Teach" which is their main study book. You might also want to get your hands on their book about Jesus that is written for Children. I can't remember the name of it, but it is filled with all of the stuff you kids will be learning at the KH. You also can get your hands on all the latest Watcthtowers. Please note that these publications are filled with trickery, misquotes, and outright lies. It will be hard to see just how wrong the publications are since you have never read them before but trust us, they are very wrong. Any questions about them can be answered by us here on the board.

    Then there are books written by ex-members and others. Since the Watchtower uses differant mind control methods I would suggest Steven Hassans book 'Releasing the Bonds' and 'Combatting Mind Control'. In addition I would also suggest 'Crisis of Conscience' by Raymond Franz and 'Apocolypse Delayed' by James Penton. I know that is alot of suggested reading, but this can be a pretty involved topic. I would say at the very least get the books for research and use the indexes in order to learn more about particular topics.

    If I can give you any really encouraging news it is this, 50% of people that actually become Jehovah's Witnesses eventually leave the faith in one way or another. They have a very hard time keeping people as members, and Children that grow up with a parent who is not JW are even more likely to leave, especially if you help them along the way.

    Lots of hope in your situation, but lots of work as well.

  • My MILs worst nightmare, a nonJW
    My MILs worst nightmare, a nonJW

    jgnat posted on your other thread. I would always listen to what she has to say.... and pay no attention to my avatar. I'm a 6'3" 220 pound male.

    I will give you the perspective of a guy who has fought the JW relatives for 22 years. I have two boys 22 and 19 and am married to a non active JW. My meddling MIL (a lifelong JW) went behind my back to try and indoctrinate my son into the religion when my oldest son was 10, and the end result was disastous for her....it did however cause a lot of unnessesary problems and nearly caused my son to be a social leper amongst his friends and schoolmates. Hopefully you can avoid that.

    The JW's are a cult that believe that their organization is the sole channel to God. I wouldn't even begin to talk religion until you have spent a good month reading and asking questions. The best of .... links on the drop down menu at the top of this page are gold.

    I wouldn't take the battle to them yet, I would let it come to you. And it will....big time.

    JW's look down on any activities that take away from their organization and its activities. They are a cult, so they try to cut the individual off from any activity that doesn't benefit them. So they discourage higher education, extra ciricular activities including sports, spending to much time pursuing other interests such as music, art .....basically anything. None of their reasoning for discouraging these things are bible based nor can they be scripturally backed up. They are indefensable.

    This is where I would pick my battle. Keep the kids active and social. As the kids get older, their social circle and activities become very important. I would make it a priority to immediately get the kids involved in sports (preferrably team sports), whether it is soccer, baseball. pee wee football or music or dance or karate....anything that is of interest to them. You could look into the local YMCA programs. They are still at an age where they don't have to be good at it to enjoy. It is a socialization process. Support them and let develop an appreciation for their activity and experience the comraderie that comes with an organized team activity.

    The JW's will eventually start telling the kids that the extra ciricular activity that they enjoy is bad. JW's will never offer an alternative other than telling the kids that it is bad because it takes away from Jehovah. They are a one trick pony. If the kids have benefited from the social activities and made friends, then they will not let the JW thought process sway them.

    If the kids don't have any activities that they enjoy or social life to lose then they may fall prey, however if their social life is established, then they won't give it up easily for anyone.

    My son who is now 22 told me the other day how thankful he was that I insisted that he play Little League and especially HS football. He wasn't very good, but he developed a sense of teamwork and frienships that remain to this day.

    Good luck!

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    MIL's Worst Nightmare, your point about team sports and activities is well taken. I'm going to remember that one.

  • JWdaughter
    JWdaughter

    Hi, welcome to the board. You might want to just talk to the ex, and explain that you wish to more fully understand what his religion teaches and to understand what your children are saying to you. Then ask him to provide you with the current childrens book and study materials-WT, Awake and study book. Sounds nuts, but they say keep your friends close and your enemies closer. You need to know what you are facing here. Don't let the propaganda mislead you-in fact if you can find a local ex-jw support group,or have one of us local to you, it might be good to sit down with them and go over troublesome things that you need to be aware of in particular. Or a local pastor that is experienced in the topic(ask around, there is always a couple). Best wishes, enjoy the little ones. They are at a vulnerable age and stage now, esp. with the divorce, so watch out for them.

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