Who will govern in the Kingdom?

by Perry 7 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  Perry

  JW's scoff at the biblical hope of Christians, saying that they are egotistical to think they'll go to heaven and return with Christ to rule over the earth. The mantra is: "Who will they rule over? That doesn't make sense." Yet, ironically they also teach that billions will be resurrected that do not know God. Talk about mind games.

  Let's do some math.

  One report I looked at put government employees at around 5-6% of the US population. So, for the current 6.5 million JWs alone, they would require nearly 400,000 annointed to serve their needs in the new world.

  Let's just say that only 4 billion people will be resurrected. That would require about 240 million annointed to serve their needs and to rule over them.

  So, God will be required to kill a far more number of people than will even be resurrected in order to have a governable population since only 144,000 are government employess.

  The teaching that all Christians selected during the Church age will rule over the earth with Christ in his Kingdom Government doesn't seem nearly as far fetched as the WT view.

  Unfortunately, JW's piously and publically reject Jesus and the New Covenant the night of each Memorial. What a beautiful little piece of deception that is.

  They should not be surprised if the Master says: I never knew you! He simply granted their request. How sad.
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  Pahpa

  Perry

  The Watchtower never let logic interrupt its own teachings. At least Russell had the "great crowd" in heaven as a secondary group. This would have helped with your calculations.

  By the way, Russell got into trouble himself with the "New Covenant" teaching. For a while, he taught that the annointed did not come under the New Covenant. It caused quite a schism at the time. Close family members and old time assoicates broke their assoication. (See Jim Penton's book, Apocalypse Delayed, on pages 40-42)

  Like you, I feel that the greatest error (among many) that the Watchtower has made is the fact that it has demoted Jesus and denied the majority of its members the privilege of sharing as the "body of Christ."
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  Gregor

  Discussing the practical questions about how things will work when Christians go to heaven is, to me, like a discussion by Islamic terrorists worrying about how they are going to service 17 virgins without getting calluses on their Johnsons.

  But I will defend to the death your right to discuss it here. It just strikes me as funny.
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  Carmel

  I thought they swung Evinrudes! caveman
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  BluesBrother

  If I were still a dub, Perry, I would say, "Don't forget the angels !" they will "no doubt" help out and serve as links between the Heavenly Government and the Earth. I might also surmise that a comparison with modern day imperfect rule and the numbers needed in a perfect, streamlined , government is not a true one.

  With my elders hat on , I would pompously say that "We can confidently leave it in Jehovah's hands" - So there!
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  heathen

  Yah I think Russell had it right with the 2 heavenly classes . The 144k are martyrs that don't survive the tribulation and are resurrected prior to the arrival of the kingdom on earth . The kingdom as I see it is the city of new jerusalem , it's a floating city that descends to earth and plays a noahs ark type role . The great crowd survive the tribualtion and the great day of God almighty be entering it where they will live for a thousand years while the earth is being repaired . The second resurrection does not take place until the millenial reign is over and the city again rises to orbit earth while those are tested to prove loyalty while the devil is released for a short time from the abyss. Then again the city descends to save them that are found loyal and evil is destroyed for all time. IMO .
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  Pahpa

  Heathen

  There are still a lot of questions unanswered about the 144,000. Some Bible scholars feel that since John describes them as coming out of the 12 tribes of Israel they represent the converted Jews. Others, like the Watchtower, note that Revelation is a very symbolic book and this symbol represents "spiritual Israel." Even the number, 144,000, is taken literally or symbolically depending on interpretation. Various scriptures could be cited to support either side.

  I'm always wary when a religious organization makes an arbitrary decision as to what interpretation has to be accepted by its members. We all have the ability to read and to draw conclusions on our own.
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  BCZAR2ME

  Everyone will be perfect and much more efficient.

  bczar