"Do Not Irritate". Total Dub Garbage.

by Englishman 6 Replies latest jw friends

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  Englishman

  "You fathers, do not be irritating your children but go on bringing them up in the self regulating mental blah blah blah".

  Good grief, how many times did the WTBTS trot out that old chestnut? As a kid it drove me nuts, as a father of several children it did indeed irritate me beyond measure because of its appalling mis-application.

  You want to know why it was so irritating? Because the Boyz n' Brooklyn interpreted it as follows, something like this:

  "We must take our children to the meetings unlike some parents who fail to do this for their chidren THEREBY IRRITATING THEM"

  I mean is this total eye-wash or what? I gotta tell you that from age 9 I knew that it was crap, and throughout the next 17 years that I spent as a Dub I knew it was crap.

  If someone could trot out the exact quotes from the publications I would be extremely grateful.

  Englishman.

  Nostalgia isn't what it used to be....
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  MrMoe

  I believe that is in the family book - I have most of the publicaitons so I will look it up when I get home.
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  unbaptized_1

  Englishman,

  You would think that any organization claiming the universal
  sovereign as their god could dispense insight and wisdom that
  reflected such a being.I dare say that these articles we read
  now days are just archived material with a novice at the helm
  who is diseminating information regarding "truth".Who really is
  steering the ship in Brooklyn?It is still the right,basic and
  only religion holding up the name Jehovah before it,but it is
  quite obvious that a shake up is coming,soon.Oh,pardon me,I was
  speaking only for myself regarding right,basic religion holding
  up Jehovah's Name.Peace to you Englishman,and your point was on
  the money,unfortunately for God's organization.
  un_1
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  ozziepost

  G'day unbaptized_1 and welcome to this happening place. I hope you'll be happy here. Come visit us often and tell how you are. We enjoy a good discussion.

  I couldn't help but notice that you used the term "God's organisation". Although you acknowledge that "It is still the right,basic and only religion holding up the name Jehovah before it,but it is quite obvious that a shake up is coming,soon."

  Do you really think it's God's own organisation? From conversations with many aussie brothers, it's clear that many acknowledge the troubles, even corruption at the top of the organisation, but still liken the WTS to the ancient nation of Israel who were still God's chosen people even though they had periods of bad rule. Is that how you feel? If so, it may be of value to you to contemplate how Jesus' parting words to his chosen followers are true in regard to the WTS:

  "Look! I am with you until the conclusion of the system of things." (Matthew 28:20)

  Makes you think, doesn't it?

  Cheers,
  Ozzie

  "It's better to light a candle than to curse the darkness."
  Anonymous
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  unbaptized_1

  Sir Oswald,

  I must indeed answer yes to your question about this
  being God's chosen organization/vehicle for promoting
  his name and bible truth.While it is very,very true that
  many troubles are starting to manifest themselves in so
  many ways,and have been left to fester by the governing
  body(i use that distinction with great reservation)while
  the congregation just handle matters as they see fit.
  Isaiah 48:11@Isaiah 42:8,9.The men Jehovah will choose to
  lead his people in the future will actually be a throw
  back to the men of long ago times.They will speak with
  authority and have the scriptual ability to function as
  did the Apostle Paul,to name a servant in likeness.That
  said,The WTS name must be done away with entirely and If
  I am not presuming too much,Sir Oswald,Jehovah's Name is
  rightly going to be featured as prominently as His son is
  able to make possible.There will be far less reliance on
  the fallible writings of men(the bible should have been
  the final word and not some WT comment for so long now)I
  think everyone must know that your "basic" knowledge, which
  will be the foundation to build on, can be found in the red
  "paradise" book.The real learning,Sir Oswald,that Jehovah is
  yet to reveal,will be without compare in scope and majesty.
  The harshness that is disfellowshipping and also public reproofs
  will come to it's end,mercifully.The brothers will still keep
  an eye out,but a greater force will already be searching out
  those who are not truly lovers of Jehovah, and they will be on
  their way out within reasonable periods of time.This is not new
  system stuff,it is going to be here in what will seem like a
  passing day,but will have in fact taken awhile to come about.
  I gotta go enter the congregation soon,myself.I am not a learned
  man by any definition,never made it out of high school.Finally,
  Matt.8:20 is never more true than it will be in our times.You
  are very classy and kind in welcoming me and my long winded
  commentaries.I apologize where I wax a bit poetic,Sir.I would
  venture that the old Jewish system was far more in disarray and
  deep in corruption than the WTS is capable of accomplishing.It
  would need a another 20 to 50 years in order to lose all sight
  of their reason for being.There will be a great redemption by
  Jesus Christ of many "outside" Jehovah's people,Sir Oswald.This
  I stake my life on and can back it up with the bible,quoting
  the obvious which just goes unseen if you are not "searching"
  with a purpose.May Jehovah bless you and your loved ones Sir
  Oswald.Peace........un_1
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  ballistic

  welcome unbap1,
  Surely you don't believe that "ark" stuff about there only being one org do you? You talk about getting back to basics, well for me that is "God is love".
  For God to have one group (obviously led by hypocritical as well as imperfect leaders) and for salvation to depend on finding this group is just far too small minded for an omnipotent God.
  God is too big to fit in any one church and our presumption that an organisation (or financial institution) can own the rights of passage to God I find distastefull and blasphemous.
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  unbaptized_1

  Ballistic,

  Thanks for the welcome,and peace to you and your family.
  I won't defend what God's Son is entrusted with caring for
  regarding the WTBTS.I cannot pretend that so many postings
  here of the troubles that affect one congregation after yet
  another is not painful and abhorrent to my soul,either.My
  mother's congregations elders could not even manage to say
  a few words of honest and needed indignation about a long
  time older brother,who had the "hots" for some sister(yeah,
  you know he's married)and started actually sitting near this
  sister(he is a real charmer I hear)while his mrs. is sitting
  over there,alone and feeling the high humiliation of the day,
  as you can imagine and feel,even.Well,those elders,when she
  went to them with the matter(as if the"shepherds" are not
  supposed to already be "aware" of this disgusting,repulsive
  display of christian behavior)and they told her she was seeing
  more in this thing about her hubby than was really there.Whoa.
  The sister had to actually change congregations to get "those
  darn shepherds"(can you envision the sitcom?)to say a few words
  to her husband and have her finally return,because(this is the
  real kicker)her husband was embarrassed by her not being there
  with her mate and people were "talking".Somebody stop this
  planet and let me off,please.Well Ballistic,you got a hell of
  a case, as they say.I look forward to interchanges of not only
  fact,but also of faith.Peace to all...............Un_1