by Gianluca 7 Replies latest jw friends
ter·ror
ter·ror noun
4. Violence committed or threatened by a group to intimidate or coerce a population, as for military or political purposes.
- ['American Heritage Dictionary,' 3rd Edition, from Microsoft Bookshelf '98 CD]
Read the following articles about terrorism:
* http://www.emperors-clothes.com/1/rem.htm
* http://emperors-clothes.com/news/allies.htm
Ciao
Gianluca
I'm not wasting my time reading pacifistic, nonsense. Make a point so we can respond to it. When 6,000 to 7,000 innocent people are killed for politico-religious reasons, then the shear degree of terrorism has little if any equal. So TERRORISM does not equal just plain vanilla TERRORISM in this instance.
Hello Gianluca,
thanks for the post!
I have to say that the following definition, that
you've quoted :
" Violence committed or threatened by a group to
intimidate or coerce a population, as for military
or political purposes."
has all my strong support. I think we should call
TERRORIST a TERRORIST!!
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
" One who has an accurate knowledge
of God's Word will have no problem
in refuting false religious ideas".
I'm not wasting my time reading pacifistic, nonsense.
An excellent approach! That way, there is no chance that you could learn something from a different point-of-view.
Make a point so we can respond to it. When 6,000 to 7,000 innocent people are killed for politico-religious reasons, then the shear degree of terrorism has little if any equal.
So when 100 times as many innocent people were killed in Rwanda during the mid-90s, the whole world got together to stop the slaughter, right? Oh wait, those were Africans, black people, so they don't count and the world looked the other way. Ah, but when America is attacked, that's different! Now we have to do something!
Look, I hate this attack on the U.S. as well, and I want the terrorists and those who helped them killed. But it does no good to ignore the acts of terror that occur every year all over the world. It is this attitude of 'if it doesn't happen here it doesn't count' that makes people sick of American provincialism and isolationism. Bush & Co. spent the first eight months of his administration telling the rest of the world to basically go to hell, ignored treaties, skipped conferences, and basically said, "We don't need you." Then this happened and now they are running around asking for help saying "We all in this together." The rest of the world will help, but you can't blame them for rollling their eyes at the hypocrisy of it all.
seeker:
I don't live in Africa. I live in the United States in the year 2001. I don't care, in the context of the attack of September 11th about any acts tribal warfare and civil wars that happened half way around the world at another time.
Life isn't fair. All wrongs can't be atoned for at all times. You want perfect justice and it doesn't exist. Your insinuation that I only care about terrorism committed against white people is a cheap shot and perhaps you can confirm that all of the people killed at the WTC and Pentagon were white. I hadn't given it a thought, but obviously you have.
Your alligator tears don't impress me.
I don't live in Africa. I live in the United States in the year 2001. I don't care, in the context of the attack of September 11th about any acts tribal warfare and civil wars that happened half way around the world at another time.
The attitude that makes the world hate America. Very good, that'll help.
Life isn't fair. All wrongs can't be atoned for at all times. You want perfect justice and it doesn't exist.
Where did I say any of that?
Your insinuation that I only care about terrorism committed against white people is a cheap shot and perhaps you can confirm that all of the people killed at the WTC and Pentagon were white. I hadn't given it a thought, but obviously you have.
Not a thought that occurred to me either. I wasn't say YOU were like that, but the fact that the world ignored an atrocity 100 times as bad as what happened here has to be explained somehow. And since many Americans seem perfectly willing to round up those who look like A-rabs (including Indian Sikhs), it's not a big leap to assume that appearance plays a part in prejudice. Whether you are like that too is not for me to say. You do have the Ugly American syndrome, but maybe you are not prejudiced against skin color.
Your alligator tears don't impress me.
Since I made none, no wonder you weren't impressed.
seeker:
You spend way too much time worrying about the world hating the United States. I don't know where you are from, but we have more people moving here every day than move to other countries. You keep saying the world hates us. Prove it! Don't just keep repeating a set of words because it's your opinion.
I am in NYC -- believe me, what happened hit home to me, ok?
All I am saying is that if we don't understand history, we are doomed to repeat it. Yes, hunt down the bastards that did this to us. Yes, strive to protect us from further attacks. But ALSO try to understand the motives of those who attacked us, who hate us, who protest against us. If we can help defuse some of those attitudes, we can also help protect us from future attacks.
This is NOT to say we deserved what happened -- no one deserves this. Nor does it excuse their attack -- nothing can excuse it. But if we don't realize we live in a global society where our actions are perceived by some as good and by some as bad, we will be as clueless in the future as we were in anticipating this attack. That's what I DON'T want to see happen, which is why IN ADDITION to calling for justice in this case, I want to see thinking about future cases and where they might come from.
I hope that helps you understand my viewpoint a bit more clearly.
