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One question...just who is this guy?

No one special, JW's who want to stay anonymous and get historical data. Seems some of them are trying to write an accurate history of the Society, but don't don't want to give credit to the Bible Students who have most of the data they want.

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VeniceIT

OK so do all Pioneers have the same name now, or does no one else post on his site HAHAHHAHAHAH!!!

Ven

"WE will make NO distinction between those who commit the act of Pedophilia and those who harbor them!!!"

Stephanus

I was interested to see the name "Stetson" in a forum on pioneers. Do all JW pioneers now have to wear cowboy hats?

MadApostate

SF:

Thanks for posting this link. This information appears to be the same that use to be posted on Coolboard before it closed. I thought it had permanently disappeared. Glad it didn't, because that site had WTS info I'd never seen before.

Here's some info that I don't remember seeing at the Coolboard I last visited.

Henry Grew was the "grandfather" of the WTS. Its been awhile since I read everything posted there, but I believe Grew was the one who taught Storrs the doctrines on no trinity, no hellfire, no soul, etc., and of course, Storrs taught these to Russell.

Our "alternative lifestyle" friends might be interested in knowing that the WTS's grandfather also had one daughter who was an open lesbian and leader in the early women's right movement, and a second daughter who sounds like had similar lifestyle circumstances.

[quote]MARY GREW BIOGRAPHY

Mary Grew was the fifth child of Henry Grew, by his third wife, Kate Merrow. Mary was born in Hartford, Conn. on September 1, 1813.

Mary's education included 2 years at the Hartford Female Seminary, in 1828-29. While there, Mary taught a Sunday School class for black children.

In 1833/34, Mary moved with her parents to Boston, and also moved with them to Philadelphia, later in 1834.

Mary battled various health problems all her life. She was also extremely close to Henry, and they worked together in the Anti-slavery Movement. Mary was also close to her half-sister, Susan, who worked in the Movement, in Boston.

Both Henry and Mary were among the 40+ Americans who traveled to the World's Anti-Slavery Convention, held in London, England, in 1840. (The report from such is posted in the "Henry Grew: Prominent Abolitionist" thread.)

Henry and Mary's anti-slavery activities brought them into close association with other national political figures, who held similar convictions. Top Abolitionist, William Lloyd Garrison of Boston, visited their home several times over the years, with Mary reciprocating such.

This Excerpt is taken from "To Believe In Women", authored by Lillian Faderman:

Grew was for many years a high official in anti-slavery societies. She was an especially powerful speaker for the cause and had successfully challenged the early prohibition within the movement —shared even by her abolitionist father— on women speaking in mixed gatherings. Like most female antislavery lecturers who were agents for the American Anti-Slavery Society, she never married in the conventional sense, but she lived most of her adult life with Margaret Burleigh, a schoolteacher. Burleigh also worked closely with Grew, both in the antislavery movement and for women's rights. After the Civil War, in 1865, they fought side by side against the move to disband the Pennsylvania Anti-Slavery Society, on whose executive committee they both served. Their argument was radical at the time: the society's work had not finished with the Emancipation Proclamation, they insisted, but needed to continue until the constitutional amendments granting the former slaves full citizenship were ratified.
To their abolitionist and suffrage acquaintances, Mary and Margaret made no secret of the fact that they shared both a home and a bed. Nor did they hide from their friends their general distrust of heterosexual relations and the married state. To young William Lloyd Garrison II, who was contemplating marriage, Mary preached, "When I say that I think you are qualified to be a good husband, I think I say a great deal, for that manner of man is rare." Even well-intentioned men failed at matrimony, she said, because of "the low ideal of a wife's position...[and] the marriage relation," a relation from which she believed she was saved through her "union" with Margaret Burleigh.

Once Grew turned to the cause of women's rights, she became a leading figure in that movement as well. She fought successfully for a married woman's property law in Pennsylvania. She was the founding president of the Pennsylvania Woman Suffrage Association in 1869 and continued as president until 1892, and she became the national president of the American Woman Suffrage Association in 1887. Almost until her death at the age of eighty-three, she was a dynamic and popular speaker for social causes. ..."

Dino

Hello sKally, How do I reach you on yahoo? Dino

MadApostate

SF:

Just wanted to say thanks again for putting me back in touch with this goldmine of info. I have spent much of the day rereading it.

The info about the WTS's great-grandfather (Henry Grew) and grandfather (George Storrs) being politically active liberals stands out in sharp contrast to the WTS's current teaching to stay out of politics. Even considering the current hot topic of the WTS's association with the UN, we know that the WTS's interest in "human rights" is really ony a smokescreen to further its proselytizing efforts.

Both Grew and Storrs were leaders in America's antislavery movement, as was Grew's daughter and Storr's wife. Mary Grew even went on to become a national president in one of the women's rights organizations. These WTS predecessors were working for the "human rights" of all people, not just to further their own selfish interests.

The WTS definitely could learn something by studying their own history.

MadApostate

I'm bumping this back up due to the historical socio-political aspects which somewhat relate to the current UN issues.

The title of the thread is probably keeping folks from clicking on this.

sf

"The title of the thread is probably keeping folks from clicking on this."

Mad, what would you suggest?

sKally, ("wturls" on yahoo (dino))

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