I well remember the cliques... and the PO and his wife seemed to be in the forefront. Any family that had a disbelieving spouse (my dad) or single parent families were on the outside. We would go to the hall, find our seats and be quiet, but were also totally ignored. I will never forget asking my mother why, after attending meetings all my life, along with my three sisters, no one could remember my name; instead calling me by my sister's names. She had no answers. When I had problems and asked several elders for help, I was completely ignored And finally, when I faded, none of the elders ever bothered to find out why. Never any shepherding calls, nothing. It's as if I never existed in their eyes. I've been out for over twenty years, and still don't know why I was always treated as a nonentity.