Hi say-what (lol, funny ID):
Thanks for your interesting testimony w/the JWs and the WT.
The past several years I have saved a few threads from around here and articles from other sources re: the WT and the Masons/Illuminati, etc. It is a never-ending debate for some, so I guess you would just have to read all sides and decide for yourself which side you want to believe. ;-)
Once you have read enough about WT/FM connection, next would be (if you haven't already) to do searches re: FM/NWO (New World Order) connection. "New World Order" is an occult phrase in and of itself, and the fact the WTBTS decided to name their very first bible the "NEW WORLD" Translation provides a beginning basis of food for thought as to the connections between the WT/FM/NWO, etc.
I can post some of the info here, but I cannot make html/bold/highlighting/underlining/italics (I'm on a Mac), so it will all just show up as plain text which makes it harder to read. If you would like any of the info via email and "in color," you can contact me thru my Profile/homepage, and/or via PM.
So what "degree" are you in Masonry? If you are 30 to 33 or above, you would likely be "in the loop" and already know what the real goals of Masonry are? But if not, have you had a chance to research what Masonry is REALLY founded upon? Most Masons don't have any idea that their organization is used as a "front" for the global elite's goals to create their One World Order (a/k/a New World Order). It is truly a fascinating study, to be sure, and I'll post some quotes below, FWIW...
Everything below here is quoted material from various sources.
/ag
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"The Mormons and the Jehovah's Witnesses are the Same Organization"
http://www.cephas-library.com/jw/jw_jw_lds_same_origin.html
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The founders of both "faiths", the Mormons and JWs, were of the Illuminati bloodline. Charles Taze Russell, who founded the Watchtower Society, was of the Illuminati Russell [Roessel] bloodline, which also founded the infamous Skull and Bones Society at Yale University. Charles Taze Russell was a ... friend of the Rothschilds. Indeed it was the Rothschilds who funded the [Watchtower Society] operation into being, along with other Illuminati bankers, through "contributions" by organisations like the Rothschild-controlled B'nai B'rith. This was proved in a court of law in 1922. One of the key people involved in this was Frank Goldman who later became President of B'nai B'rith. Why would an organisation set up (in theory) to help Jewish people and promote the Jewish faith, be funding into existence the [Watchtower Society] ?? I think the name Rothschild answers the question. Russell was also a high degree Freemason and Knights Templar. He promoted Zionism, another Rothschild creation (see Was Hitler a Rothschild), on behalf of his friends and backers.
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Masonic Infiltration of "Christendom"
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/101490/1.ashx
The Late Jim Shaw, wrote a book called "The Deadly Deception," in which he names "Evangelist", Billy Graham as having been initiated into the 33rd degree of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry. How does Jim Shaw know this? Jim Shaw himself was a Freemason who later defected and became a born-again Christian. The events surrounding Jim Shaw and his wife''s death, shortly after the book was published are certainly suspicious and certainly show the seriousness of oaths that Freemasons take not to reveal members and rituals. Jim Shaw did both. Revealing membership and rituals in his book.
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The Billy Graham Deception
Billy Graham and Norman Vincent Peale believe that Jesus Christ lied
Robert Schuller another suspected evangelist/freemason who also preaches New Age Christianity- Heresy.
Jewish Masonic Lodge, Bnai Brith, also funded Russell, Awards Billy Graham
The Masonic compass and square are featured right on the cover of the Copeland’s book. A secret sign to fellow Masons and a warning to the enlightened.
Kenneth Copeland 33rd Degree Freemason?
Kenneth Copeland 33rd Degree Freemason Exposed
Copeland teaches heretical doctrines such as; Jesus went to hell and died spiritually, was raped, and that we become God etc... the guy is a total fraud, sucking millions of dollars from unsuspecting naïve churchians.
Freemasonry is an antichrist plot to usurp Orthodox Christianity and uses leaders from all religions and denominations. The Masons focus mostly on infiltrating and running Evangelicalism and the cults because that is the target and those areas are the most influential and attack the divinity of Christ.
Consider the following
"In 1994, Rabbi Tzvi Marx, director of Applied Education at the Shalom Hartman Institute in Jerusalem, made a remarkable admission concerning how Jewish rabbis in the past have issued two sets of texts: the authentic Talmudic texts with which they instruct their own youth in the Talmud schools (yeshiviot) and "censured and amended" versions which they disseminate to gullible non-Jews for public consumption." Michael Hoffman II, "Judaism's Strange gods," pg.71
Freemasonry, a Jewish front created to seduce Christians and their leaders also orders the same command of lying for its members.
"Grand Sovereign Freemason Commander," Albert Pike writes: “Masonry...conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead."
Again, many well seeking researchers, have tried to find out prominent members of the Masonic lodge including, Jehovah's Witness founder, Charles Taze Russell, Evangelist Billy Graham, Evangelist Robert Schuller, and many others, only to be flatly denied by the Masons who are ordered to lie to protect the identity of the composition of their membership.
Many fail to realize that Freemasons take blood oaths and swear to uphold the secrets of the rites, rituals, and membership composition.
Quote: It is, in fact, the Cabalistic elements in Freemasonry that act as the main driving force in the envenomed and aggressive opposition of the latter to Christianity, and its never-flagging efforts for the undermining and destruction of the Christian organization of society. (Mgr. Dillon, The War of Anti-Christ with the Church, p. 20).
Quote: "How often have I heard the Freemasons lament the dominance of the Jews...Ever since the Revolution the Jews have taken possession of the Masonic lodges more and more completely: and their dominance is now unquestioned. The Cabala rules as mistress in the inner lodges; and the Jewish spirit dominates the lower grades...In the mind of Satan the synagogue has an all important part to play...The great enemy counts on the Jews to govern Masonry as he counts on Masonry to destroy the Church of Jesus Christ (Christianity)." (L'Abbá Emmanuel Barbier, Infiltrations Maáoniques, quoted in Dictionaire Apologetique de la Foi Catholique, Gustave Gautherot; He was the Professor for the History of the Revolution in the Institute Catholique de Paris, and author of several works on different phases of the modern anti-Christian movement on which he is generally recognized as one of the best authorities).
Quote: "This intimate connection between the two powers (Freemasonry and Cabalistic Judaism) (writes R. Lambelin) is becoming so evident that there is no longer any attempt made to deny it. The Jewish lodges of B'nai B'rith, which originated in the English-speaking countries, have swarmed all over Europe, and even into Asia; and they assume the leadership of control in the whole Masonic organization. Under cover of Theosophy a new religion, which is specifically Jewish, though enveloped in a nebulous mist that obscures its character, is bidding fair to take the place of the traditional Christian belief which it flatters, and insensibly destroys." (Les Victoires d'Israel, pp. 211-212; Freemasonry and The Anti-Christian Movement, Edward Cahill, p. 92).
Quote: "There will burst forth one fine evening one of these formidable crises which will shake the earth and which occult societies have long prepared for Christian society, and then perhaps will suddenly appear in open day, throughout the entire world, all the militia, all the fraternal and unknown sects of the Cabala. The ignorance, the carelessness in which we live, of their sinister existence, their affinities, and their immense ramifications will in no way prevent them from recognizing each other, and under the banner of no matter what universal alliance, giving each other the kiss of Peace, they will hasten to gather together under one Chief..." (Le Juif, Le Judaisme et La Judaisation des Peuples ChrÇtiens, Gougenot des Mousseaux (1869); The Trail of the Serpent, Miss Stoddard, p. 318).
Quote: "The real chiefs of this immense association of Freemasonry (the few within the innermost circles of initiation), who must not be confounded with the nominal leaders or figure-heads, are mostly Jews, and live in close and intimate alliance with the militant members of Judaism, those, namely, who are the leaders of the Cabalistic section. This älite of the Masonic association, these real chiefs, who are known to so few even of the initiated, and whom even these few know only under assumed names (noms de guerre) carry on their activities in secret dependence (which they find very lucrative for themselves) upon the Cabalistic Jews." (Le Juif, la Judaisme, et la Judaisation des Peuples ChrÇtiens (Paris, 1869), p. 340).
Jeremiah 11:9 And the LORD said unto me, A conspiracy is found among the men of Judah, and among the inhabitants of Jerusalem. --King James Bible
Thus, The Jewish Tribune of New York, on October 28, 1927, stated; "Masonry is based on Judaism. Eliminate the teachings of Judaism from the Masonic Ritual and what is left?"
The well known rabbi, Isaac Wise, was emphatic when he concluded: "Freemasonry is a Jewish establishment, whose history, grades, official appointments, passwords, and explanations are Jewish from beginning to end."
At that same ceremony, sponsored by the "Grand Lodge of the State of Israel," Rabbi Lau stated that, "The principles of Freemasonry are all contained in the Book of Books of the Jewish people."
It is, in fact, the Cabalistic elements in Freemasonry that act as the main driving force in the envenomed and aggressive opposition of the latter to Christianity, and its never-flagging efforts for the undermining and destruction of the Christian organization of society. (Mgr. Dillon, The War of Anti-Christ with the Church, p. 20).
"How often have I heard the Freemasons lament the dominance of the Jews...Ever since the Revolution the Jews have taken possession of the Masonic lodges more and more completely: and their dominance is now unquestioned. The Cabala rules as mistress in the inner lodges; and the Jewish spirit dominates the lower grades...In the mind of Satan the synagogue has an all important part to play...The great enemy counts on the Jews to govern Masonry as he counts on Masonry to destroy the Church of Jesus Christ (Christianity)." (L'Abbá Emmanuel Barbier, Infiltrations Maáoniques, quoted in Dictionaire Apologetique de la Foi Catholique, Gustave Gautherot; He was the Professor for the History of the Revolution in the Institute Catholique de Paris, and author of several works on different phases of the modern anti-Christian movement on which he is generally recognized as one of the best authorities).
"This intimate connection between the two powers (Freemasonry and Cabalistic Judaism) (writes R. Lambelin) is becoming so evident that there is no longer any attempt made to deny it. The Jewish lodges of B'nai B'rith, which originated in the English-speaking countries, have swarmed all over Europe, and even into Asia; and they assume the leadership of control in the whole Masonic organization. Under cover of Theosophy a new religion, which is specifically Jewish, though enveloped in a nebulous mist that obscures its character, is bidding fair to take the place of the traditional Christian belief which it flatters, and insensibly destroys." (Les Victoires d'Israel, pp. 211-212; Freemasonry and The Anti-Christian Movement, Edward Cahill, p. 92).
"During the Renaissance, crypto-Judaism firned the centerpiece of the occult belt of transmission which gave rise to Freemasonry and Rosicrucianism, the founders of which professed a "Christian Kabbalah" and performed their magic rites in the name of Jesus Christ.
There is a substantial literature on this occult amalgam, including Grances A. Yates' classi studies, The Rosicrucian Enlightenment (1972) and The Occult Philosophy in the Elizabethan Age (1979).
The great appeal of the Kabbalah to nascent Freemasons and Rosicrucians was Judaism's doctrine, as expressed by Scottish Rite Freemason Albert Pike in his Morals and Dogma, of the "perfection" of the universe through the intervention of human brain power.
By this conceptm God's creation is imperfect and the "Jew" and the Jew's assistant, the Freemason (an incomplete "Jew" as symbolized by the masonic square and compass, which is an incomplete hexagram, i.e. "Star of David"), will perfect this flawed creation.
This is expressed in the Talmud and Kabbalah. In the Talmud it appears in Sanhedrin 65b: "Rabbi Hanina and the Rabbi Oshaia spent every Sabbath eve in studying the 'Book of Creation' by means of which they created a third-grown calf and ate it." ---Michael Hoffman II, "Judaism's Strange gods," pg.97
Occultists regard the Council of Trent (1545-1563), as a setback for their hopes for a Hermetic-Kabbalistic beachhead within the Roman Catholicism of that era; cf. Gnosis Magazine, Summer, 1990, p.42.
Related Links:
Why Would Jews Support Jehovah's Witnesses?
Jewish Masonic Roots of Jehovah's Witness
Order of the Skull and Bones, Chapter 322, and Russell Trust
B.C./Yukon Masonic Lodge Caught Lying About Jehovah's Witness Founder
Russell An Unoticed Freemason
The Russell Bloodline
The Watchtower and the Masons
Mormon's Masons thanks Rebelx
Christian Science and Jehovah's Witness
Skull and Bones Fostered Communism In Russia
Dirty Secrets of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society
Rothschild, Rockefeller, and Jehovah's Witnesses
Fred Franz consulted with non-JW Jewish consultant for deeper insight
watchtower.org Goes out of its Way to Deny Zionist/Communist Connections
Another Masonic Tombstone Found In the Russell Owned Allegheny Graveyard
Due to your Russell links, I think it not off-topic to post this link:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/101470/1.ashx
"TELLING THE TRUTH IS NOT ANTISEMITIC. AM I RIGHT?" -- Joe Wood, (African-American author), in Berman, Paul. Blacks and Jews: Alliance and Arguments, Delacorte Press, NY, 1994, p. 112
"THE HUNT FOR ANTI-SEMITES IS A HUNT FOR POCKETS OF RESISTANCE TO THE NEW WORLD ORDER, LIKE NAZIS GOING HOUSE TO HOUSE. -- Israel Shamir (Jewish Christian)
"TO SEE WHAT IS IN FRONT OF ONE'S NOSE REQUIRES A CONSTANT STRUGGLE." -- George Orwell, 1946
"THERE IS NOTHING MORE FRIGHTENING THAN ACTIVE IGNORANCE." -- Goethe
"IN A TIME OF UNIVERSAL DECEIT, TELLING THE TRUTH IS A REVOLUTIONARY ACT." -- George Orwell
"The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists." J. Edgar Hoover
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The relationship of Zionists to the Illuminati mirrors that of Freemasonry, which the Illuminati also control. Most are pawns and dupes. "The Lodge shall be our nursery garden," Illuminati founder Adam Weishaupt wrote. "All those who are not suited to the work shall remain in the Masonic Lodge and advance in that without knowing anything of the further system." (Webster, Secret Societies, p.210)
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Source: Henry Makow, Ph.D.'s article "The Root of the Problem: Jews or Illuminati?" dated 8/4/06 : http://www.savethemales.ca/
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HISTORIC FREEMASONRY QUOTES
"It is a Luciferian religion. We are fully aware of its diabolical origin and purpose. I believe that any born-again Christian, when the facts from the lips of Masonic writers themselves are presented showing that masonry is a religion and is the worship of Satan, will immediately withdraw." To this I must add my hearty agreement! The God and Father of the Lord Jesus Christ, the only True and Living God, has clearly commanded Christians, "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers, and swear not at all, and have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them."
-- Source of quote: "A Grand Chaplain speaks out", by Harmon R. Taylor GRAND LODGE FREE AND ACCEPTED MASONS OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK GRAND CHAPLAIN 1983-1984" Testimony of REV. HARMON R. TAYLOR. Read his entire testimony online here: http://www.cuttingedge.org/free004.html
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"That which we must say to the crowd is: 'We worship a god, but it is the god one adores without superstition.' To you , Sovereign Grand Instructors General [a 33rd Degree Mason], we say this ... you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st, and 30th Degrees ... The Masonic religion should be, by all of the initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian doctrine ... Yes, Lucifer is God, and unfortunately Adonay [God of the Holy Bible] is also God ... the doctrine of Satanism is a heresy; and the true and pure philosophic religion is the belief in Lucifer, the equal of Adonay; but Lucifer, God of Light, God of Good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the God of Darkness and Evil."
-- Source of quote: Lady Queenborough, Occult Theocracy, p. 220-221, quoting a letter from Albert Pike to the 23 Supreme Councils of the World on July 14, 1889
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"LUCIFER, the Light-Bearer .. Is it he who bears the Light? Doubt it not!"
Source: Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma , p. 321
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"The true name of Satan, the Kabalists say, is Yahweh (GOD) reversed; for Satan is not a black god, but a negation of God. For Initiates, this is not a Person, but a Force ..."
Source: Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma , p. 102
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"If Freemasonry were simply a Christian institution, the Jew and the Moslem, the Brahman and Buddhist, could not conscientiously partake of its illumination."
Source: Albert Mackey, Encyclopedia of Freemasonry, p. 182, 33rd Degree Mason
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"Freemasonry is not Christian, nor a substitute for it."
Source: C.F. McQuaig, My Masonic Friend, p. 1
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"Masonry has nothing to do with the Bible; it is not founded upon the Bible, for if it were, it would not be Masonry, it would be something else."
Source: The Digest of Masonic Law, p. 207-209
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Idolatry, worship of "self": "Humanity, 'in-toto', then, is the only Personal God."
Source: J.D. Buck, Mystic Masonry, p. 136, 32nd Degree
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Masonry is a religion? What kind?:
"Every Masonic Lodge is a temple of religion, and its teachings are instruction in religion."
Source: Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma, p. 213. [Pike was a 33rd Degree Mason, Head of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, Southern Jurisdiction]
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"Freemasonry is a search for Light. That search leads us directly back, as you see, to the Kabalah."
Source: Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma , p. 741
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"All truly dogmatic religions have issued from the Kabalah and return to it; everything scientific and grand in the religious dreams of the Illuminati ... all the Masonic associations owe to it their Secrets and their symbols."
Source: Pike, Morals and Dogma
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"To conceive of God ... the Kabala imagined Him to be a 'most occult light'."
Source: Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma, p. 740
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"The result is light or illumination. Such are the Illuminati."
Source: J.D. Buck, 32nd Degree Mason, Mystic Masonry, Introduction, p. xl.
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"The Blue Degrees (the Blue Lodge degrees) are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally mislead by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understand them ."
Source: Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma, p. 819
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"We must create a super rite, which will remain unknown, to which we will call those Masons of high degree (30th and above), whom we shall select. With regards to our brothers in Masonry, these men must be pledged to the strictest secrecy. Through this supreme rite, we will govern all Freemasonry which will become the one international center, the more powerful, because its direction will be unknown."
Source: Letter, dated 1/22/1870, from Albert Pike to the Head of the Order of the Illuminati, Guiseppe Mazzini
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"It is this which has served as the basis for our organisation of SECRET MASONRY WHICH IS NOT KNOWN TO, AND AIMS WHICH ARE NOT EVEN SO MUCH AS SUSPECTED BY, THESE ... CATTLE, ATTRACTED BY US INTO THE SHOW ARMY OF MASONIC LODGES IN ORDER TO THROW DUST IN THE EYES OF THEIR FELLOWS ... masonry blindly serves as a screen for us and our objects, but the plan of action of our force, even its very abiding-place,remains for the whole people an unknown mystery."
Source: Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, capitalization in the original
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"SECRET SOCIETIES -- Meantime, however, until we come into our kingdom, we shall act in the contrary way: we shall create and multiply free Masonic lodges in all the countries of the world, absorb into them all who may become or who are prominent in public activity, for these lodges we shall find our principal intelligence office and means of influence. All these lodges ... will be composed of our learned elders. The lodges will have their representatives who will serve to screen the above-mentioned administration of MASONRY and from whom will issue the watchword and program ... The most secret plots will be known to us and will fall under our guiding hands on the very day of their conception."
Source: Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, capitalization in the original
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When did the Masons become a part of the Illuminati?
"On July 16, 1782, at the infamous Congress of Wilhelmsbad, near the city of Hanau in Hesse-Cassel. It was initiated by Ferdinand, Duke of Brunswick, Grand Master of the Order of Strict Observance."
Source: Albert Mackey, Encyclopedia of Freemasonry, p. 1006.
What happened at this meeting?
Dr. Adam Weishaupt, and his right-hand man, Baron Adolf Von Knigge (both of whom were Masons at the time), attended the Congress of Wilhelmsbad; they had met with the representatives from the 23 Supreme Councils of the Masonic world and convinced them, after 30 sessions, to follow the Illuminati's 7-part Plan to the Creation of a New World Order.
How did they do this?
At the end of the 30 council meetings, the representatives of the Masonic world signed a blood contract, vowing that they would follow the Illuminati's 7-part Plan to the Creation of a New World Order.
Don't Any of the Masons know about these facts?
For the most part, no. About 95% of all Masons haven't a clue as to what is really going on in their own lodges. Only 30th Degree Masons and above may be allowed to know these secrets. Of those Masons who are 30th and above, only 5% of them know the full truth, because they have already been initiated into the Illuminati. Most of the time, an Illuminist will enter into the ranks of Masonry simply to continue the infiltration process. Eventually, this Illuminist will become one of the high ranking Masons and will, therefore, be able to better control the Masonic world because of his degree and power.
Read the entire article, from which all the above quotes came, online here:
http://www.cuttingedge.org/free14.html
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"Freemasonry is a Jewish establishment, whose history, grades, official appointments, passwords, and explanations are Jewish from beginning to end."
Source: Rabbi Isaac Mayer Wise, a major pioneer of Reform Judaism in America, 1855
"Freemasonry is based on Judaism. Eliminate the teachings of Judaism from the Masonic ritual and what is left?"
Source: The Jewish Tribune, editorial, 1927
The above two quotes from: http://watch.pair.com/revision.html
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"In modern witch rites, we find terms and expressions that are also used in Masonry, the Golden Dawn, and other such occult societies."
Source: Arnold and Patricia Crowther, The Secrets of Ancient Witchcraft, p. 22
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"Masonry ought forever to be abolished. It is wrong - essentially wrong - a seed of evil, which can never produce any good."
Source: John Qunicy Adams, 6th President of the United States: "Letters On Freemasonry: Warning in 1833 by President John Quincy Adams"
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"The day has come when Fellow Craftsman must know and apply their knowledge. The lost key to their grade is the mastery of emotion , which places the energy of the universe at their disposal. Man can only expect to be entrusted with great power by proving his ability to use it constructively and selflessly. When the Mason learns that the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his Craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands, and before he may step onward and upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply energy. He must follow in the footsteps of his forefather, Tubal-Cain, who with the mighty strength of the war god hammered his sword into a plowshare."
Source: Manly P. Hall, 33rd Degree, K.T., The Lost Keys of Freemasonry or The Secret of Hiram Abiff, Forward by Reynold E. Blight, 33rd Degree, K.T., Illustrations by J. Augustus Knapp, 32nd Degree, Macoy Publishing and Masonic Supply Company, Inc., Richmond, Virginia, p. 48
-- http://www.cuttingedge.org/free11.html
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John 14:6: Jesus saith unto him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, BUT BY ME."
John 10:9: "I AM THE DOOR: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved."
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That's just the tip of the iceberg. For many more revealing articles about Freemasonry, the Illuminati, the New World Order, etc., visit the FREEMASONRY CORNER at CuttingEdge:
http://www.cuttingedge.org/fmcorner.html
Or email or PM me and I can forward individual articles, etc. via email.
/abbagail
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I only had one article about Shriners so I quickly found two more bits of info which I will include below as well...
A St. Pete Times newspaper article http://www.sptimes.com/2006/07/02/Tampabay/Meet_the_Shriners.shtml says (further below) a person has to already be a "Master Mason" in order to become a Shriner. So I guess whatever the Masons believe is what the Shriners believe. (It would be like saying a person has to be a Catholic before they could become a Catholic priest. And to be a Catholic priest, they would have to already believe what the Catholics believe.) Also, even though Shriners do many "good works" (which are definitely commendable), as with anything else, each person would have to decide for themselves if their allegiance to Masonry/Shriners-teachings-and-beliefs conflicts with their allegiance to Jesus Christ (if they are interested in even having a relationship w/Jesus Christ, that is).
Another source says that "Shriners are 33rd degree Masons":
Source: "Masons and Mystery At The 33rd Parallel", by Day Williams
Quoted in this article: http://www.cuttingedge.org/NEWS/n1766.cfm
And this last portion comes from a 2001-2005 article about former Pres. Roosevelt and his Shriner connections. I'm learning a good bit more about Shriners as I go along here...This article says a person has to be a 32nd degree Mason to be a Shriner (so which is correct, say-what, a Master Mason, a 32nd degree Mason, or a 33rd degree Mason? ;-)
Source: http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/All_Seeing_Eye.htm
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Besides being a high ranking freemason and having the distinction of introducing socialism into the American political system, Roosevelt was a member of a secret society called the Ancient Arabic Order of Nobles of the Mystics Shrine (Shriners), attaining the grade of a Knight of Pythias. The Order of Nobles and Mystics claimed to be an offshoot of the Illuminati.
Freemasons, Walter Flemming and William Florence founded an American branch in New York, 1872. Membership in the order was open only to Freemasons who had reached the 32nd degree of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite or those who've attained the last degree of the York Rite, the thirteenth degree (Knight Templar).
The Order of Nobles and Mystics have origins which date back to the seventh century – apparently founded by a descendent of Mohammed. Author Michael Howard describes the Order's symbols.
Symbol of the Order “The symbol of the Order is a crescent moon, made from the claws of a Bengal tiger, engraved with a pyramid, an urn and a pentagram. The crescent is suspended from a scimitar and in the Order is a representation of the Universal Mother worshipped in ancient times as Isis. The horns of the crescent point downwards because it represents the setting moon of the old faith at the rising of the Sun of the new religion of the brotherhood of humanity.” - The Occult Conspiracy, p.93
According to Anton LaVey, founder of the Church of Satan, Roosevelt's Shriner's have a ritual similar to a satanic ritual called "The Ceremony of the Stifling Air", or better known as "L'air Epais." LaVey says that this rite was originally performed "when entering the sixth degree of the Order of the Knights Templar." Remember that if the Masonic candidate chooses to follow the York Rite, after he completes the 13th degree called the Knight Templar, he can apply to become a Shriner.
LaVey describes the Templars' ritual thus:
“The original Templars' rite of the Fifth degree symbolically guided the candidate through the Devil's Pass in the mountains separating the East from the West (the Yezidi domain). At the fork of the trail the candidate would make an important decision: either to retain his present identity, or strike out on the Left-Hand Path to Shambhala, where he might dwell in Satan's household, having rejected the foibles and hypocrisies of the everyday world.
"A striking parallel to this rite is enacted within the mosques of the Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine, an order reserved for thirty-second degree Masons. The Nobles have gracefully removed themselves from any implication of heresy by referring to the place beyond the Devil's Pass as the domain where they might "worship at the shrine of Islam.
"Once the celebrant has taken this degree, he embarks upon the Left Hand Path and chooses Hell in place of Heaven.”
- The Satanic Rituals — Companion to the Satanic Bible, p. 21
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Some of the Duties of a Potentate or "CEO" of Shriners: "oriental guide, high priest and prophet."
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...the Egypt Shrine's highest position and is responsible for general operations at the Egypt Shrine ... duties include running meetings and enforcing imperial bylaws. Potentates are elected by their membership. They must hold a series of leadership positions over five or 10 years before they are eligible. At the Egypt Shrine, a potentate must hold the positions of oriental guide, high priest and prophet, assistant Rabban and Rabban over four successive years before he may be elected potentate in the fifth year.
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Some occult symbols used in Shriner symbology: Muslim crescent, sphinx, pyramid, five-pointed-star (pentagram):
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Necklace: At the bottom of the chain hangs the crescent, which was adopted as the jewel of the order. Any materials can be used to form the crescent, but the most valuable jewels have claws of a royal Bengal tiger, united at their base in a gold setting. In the center of the emblem is the head of a sphinx and on the back are a pyramid, an urn and a star. The jewel bears the motto "Robur et Furor," which means strength and fury. The crescent hangs from a scimitar. A five-pointed star hangs beneath the head of the sphinx. All the symbols are used to decorate tombs, gravestones, banners and regalia.
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Source for the above last two paragraphs:
Meet the Shriners - By JUSTIN GEORGE - July 2, 2006
http://www.sptimes.com/2006/07/02/Tampabay/Meet_the_Shriners.shtml
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Here's a few more links re: WT/FM:
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Indymedia Censors "The Watchtower and the Masons," Did the WT Cause This?
posted here at JWD by Rebelly Yelly on 21-Nov-06 23:42
Since indymedia has mysteriously shut down all downloading of this amazing book at two sites: http://thunderbay.indymedia.org/news/2006/02/22650.php and http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/02/8554.php watchtower.cc
The Watchtower and the Masons - By Fritz Springmeier
http://www.quad-central.com/wtmasons.pdf
img src="http://thunderbay.indymedia.org/uploads/2006/02/b000eaccfw.01-a2ov72alx79rbl._sclzzzzzzz_.jpg"
also see one of his other great books:
Be Wise As Serpents - By Fritz Springmeier
http://www.whale.to/b/Springmeier1991.pdf
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The below is an excerpt re: WT/Fred Franz/Illuminati from the full page entitled:
The Bundy Bloodline
Families in the world who are allied with the Illuminati.
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/the_bundy_bloodline.htm
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I believe that an investigator will do himself a favor in tracking down the ties a family has with the top bloodlines and how that family interacts with the top families. This is the principle behind why history books discuss royalty so much. All that I encourage is that people investigate Satan’s royalty in order to understand how Satan’s realm- the power behind the scenes operates.
In the Be Wise As Serpents book [ http://www.whale.to/b/Springmeier1991.pdf ] I gave a good example of how Satan’s realm works behind the scenes. The Illuminati control the Watchtower Society. The nominal head of the WT Society for many years was their President Fred Franz. Yet, Fred Franz had grown very old, was blind and stayed in his bed. Natheer Salih was supposedly Fred Franz’s bodyguard and helper, but all communications to WT President Fred Franz had to go through 6’2" Natheer Salih, who would supposedly ask Franz and then would come back with an answer. Apparently Salih may be from an Iraqi Jewish bloodline. He wears big rings and has expensive tastes. Salih was the channel through whom the llluminati could pass their decisions for the WT onto the Governing Body and Bethel staff.
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The Watchtower, Ted Bundy, and the Illuminati-???
Long article which I never finished reading:
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/dirtywatchtowersecrets.htm
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1906 Two of the key early Watchtower Society leaders were Bundy's. These were Walter H. Bundy, who went with Charles Taze Russell to Great Britain on his May 29-31, 1909 trip, and Edwin Bundy who worked at the Bethel Headquarters at the turn of the century and traveled around the U.S. for the Watchtower Society from 1906 to 1910. The_Bundy_bloodline
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http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/the_bundy_bloodline.htm
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Here's a webapge I found Dec. 2005 but never finished reading it, but it had these two sections about WT:
AMERICA UNDER THE CURSE OF THE MASONIC JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES (re: JAH-BUL-ON, etc.)
THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESS A DAUGHTER OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
http://www.geocities.com/jesuselcristos/hoaxology_10.html
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WHEN did the WT Society begin using the "NEW WORLD" and/or "NEW ORDER" terminology? Very Interesting -- glad I ran across this as I wondered what I did with that info: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THE_PARADISE_REPORTER/message/2108
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THE WATCHTOWER SOCIETY
IN THE ZIONIST CONSPIRACY
By:-Jack McCracken 9.30.01
ammended April 02
Posted at two different forums:
http://www.channelc.org/cgi-bin/eboard30/index.cgi?board=Main&message=1741
--and--
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/74864/5.ashx
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Masons Deny Russell was Ever a Mason:
posted by: AndersonsInfo:
"Here's PROOF that Charles Taze Russell Was NOT a Pennsylvania Freemason"
23-Sep-05:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/98890/1.ashx
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FREEMASONS & JWs & CHRISTIAN SCIENTISTS
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THE_PARADISE_REPORTER/message/2907
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JWs and the ILLUMINATI - Svali article:
Q & A: Svali Answers Readers' Questions
http://web.archive.org/web/20030618102456/www.centrexnews.com/columnists/svali/2001/03/Q_A.html
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The Tetragrammaton and the Christian Scriptures
http://neirr.org/Tetragrammaton.htm
By Eric Francke
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THE ARMAGEDDON PLOT
By Fritz Springmeier
http://poweredbychrist.homestead.com/files/articles/plot.htm
(I haven't read that yet, so I don't know if I agree w/it or not./ag)
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Quote:
"The Watchtower magazine is a modern day 'Talmud'
by which the Governing Body exercises
enormous power over JWs."
(posted by Arthur at JWD forum - 10/24/06, but I didn't save the link./ag)
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Russell's "Stone Witness"
http://www.dannyhaszard.com/pyramids/stonewitness.htm
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"ORDER OF" Special Full Time Servants
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Oracle/3883/order/order.html?200524
(Did Jesus or his apostles refer to any of his followers as an "ORDER"? No, but secret societies use the term often enough to describe their orgs).
Another Masonic/New Age term the WT recently used is for their 2007 DC Theme: "Follow THE CHRIST":
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THE_PARADISE_REPORTER/message/4186
Another Masonic "fellowship term" the WT "seems" to be using more frequently is "BROTHERHOOD" as was pointed out by another poster in another thread earlier today about the latest BOE letter.
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Watchtower Officials admit the Watchtower has from time to time received help
from Hillary Clinton and other government political figures.
Page numbers will not match your computer. Look for page numbers that are
circled in scans;FADT 124 and FADT 125------takes a few seconds to download.
http://www.aph.gov.au/hansard/joint/commttee/j2444.pdf Scans of 2 pages of the Watchtower's 20 page submission to the Australian Government are below.
http://server5.pictiger.com/img/71699/picture-hosting/c-h-20001.php
http://server5.pictiger.com/img/71665/picture-hosting/c-h-10001.php
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Jehovah's Witnesses were listed with FIREPHIM
"Surprising (not!) to see the WTS in an "association" (their word) with Scientology,
Moonies, Mormons, Wica, etc, etc.
http://www.1mbupload.com/uploads/e9f044fba4.jpg
http://www.religion.qc.ca/Fiches/fiche134.htm
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Watchtower Symbol found on the head of "Diana Of Ephesus"
http://philologos.org/__eb-ttb/images/fig08.htm
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I'm near the burnout stage for tonight... did I include this one already? I think so...
Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian Science and Freemasonry
http://www.geocities.com/endtimedeception/templar.htm
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WT's "NEW ORDER" + "NEW WORLD" + "NEW WORLD SOCIETY" = Masonic NWO Connection-??
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TO_JEHOVAHs_WITNESSES_with_LOVE/message/139
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***w 52 7/15 p.432 par.1 Patriarchal Society***
"By the force of events many of these SECRETS are now being unlocked by the Great Interpreter himself. (Dan. 2:47) From these it is possible to obtain a clearing vision of the details which will operate in the NEW WORLD ORDER of things. Actually the NEW ORDER of things is already taking shape and will be fully operating at Armageddon time to fill the vacuum left after the cataclysmic disappearance of the OLD ORDER. For this reason God's witnesses on earth are now diligently studying the Holy Scriptures to FULLY EXAMINE the NUMEROUS SHADOWS, PRINCIPLES, METHODS, PROCEDURES and SYSTEMS employed by SOCIETIES of God's servants in Biblical times. God's dealings with those ANCIENT SOCIETIES foreshadowed many developments in the NEW WORLD ORDER of things."
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Too pooped to dig through any more folders... catch me another time and I'll keep looking.
I hope this helps in your research, saaaaay what. Happy reading.
/ag
