Positive Thinking vs Positive Knowing

What-A-Coincidence

I got an interesting email that I wanted to share that deals with beliefs. In this case it deals with financial success but it also applies to doctrinal beliefs. Example: Witnesses are positive thinkers but not Positive Knowers (is that a word?) like us.

Your Belief Becomes Your RealityBy: Brian Tracy
The Determinant of Your Success
Perhaps the most powerful single factor in your financial success is your beliefs about yourself and money. We call this the Law of Belief. It says simply this: Whatever you believe, with feeling, becomes your reality. Whatever you intensely believe becomes your reality. That we have a tendency to block out any information coming in to us that is inconsistent with our reality.
What Successful People Believe
What we've discovered is that successful people absolutely believe that they have the ability to succeed. And they will not entertain, think about, or talk about the possibilities that they'll fail. They do not even consider the possibility of failure.

Positive Thinking Versus Positive Knowing
You always act in a matter consistent with your beliefs. The most important belief system you can build is a prosperity consciousness where you absolutely believe that you are going achieve your financial goals. We call this positive knowing versus positive thinking. Positive thinking can sometimes be wishing or hoping. But positive knowing is when you absolutely know that no matter what, you will be successful.

DJK

The most important belief system you can build is a prosperity consciousness.

I liked the lines you highlighted. I highlighted this one because it exemplifies why many JWs past their retirement age are struggling. They truly fail to do this, and it shows with the fact that they don't allow their children to enter college or educate themselves enough to suceed.

serendipity

I don't know that I consider JWs positive thinkers. After all, they think they're right. ;-)

JamesThomas

WAC:

I got an interesting email that I wanted to share that deals with beliefs. In this case it deals with financial success but it also applies to doctrinal beliefs.

Beliefs run deep. V e r y d e e p.

Sit, and silently run through your mind everything believed about your self and all the beliefs regarding your relationship to the rest of the universe (it's unlikely one could seriously do this, unless you are a monk in a cave; but for now do the best time allows).

Does any of the noted beliefs, in any way, describe the silent conscious presence which sees all the beliefs (that which is most close and intimately you)? Can it be seen that everything ever thought and believed about "self", is not self?

So then, if you are not what has been believed for all these years, what are you -- really? and isn't it important to know since our relationship to everyone and everything is based on what we perceive our-self as being?

j

loosie

Whoa James that is deep. This blonde is overwhelmed

tetrapod.sapien

ugh. i can't believe there are people who write tripe like that.

prosperity consciousness

for me, in the intention it was written in, represents a branch of humanity that is way way off the mark. "prosperity consciousness"? not only does it sound cultish (the cult of prosperousness), it presumes human nature to be satisfied with aquiring, owning, profiting; having. in our culture, peoples understanding of "prosperity" is shallow to the degree that they are all for everyones prosperity as long as they are equally or more prosperous.

in terms of positive thinking and postive knowing, i find the correlation between the two terms unconvincing. i don't see a real "vs" here. positive thinking is associated with upbeatness in all daily occurances. positive knowing, for me, means knowing something intimately because it is rational, not because it is a happy group of objects we posess. the group of objects (the knowledge), while creating a sense of pleasure in having them, for some people, may be entirely without logical consistency. i would say that there are very very few things which anyone can claim "positive knowledge" of.

one of the problems i have with "people act in accord with their beliefs", is that people do not really know what they believe. people know what everyone "believes", and act in accordance with that, but hardly know the systemic causes of their own behavour (action). and to know is to believe, not the other way around.

there is a big difference between historical knowing of why we act in the present the way we do, and thinking that the future will also be the same as the past, which is exactly what prosperous people would like us all to think (i make no difference between religiously powerful poeple and financially powerful people because the power source is the same). status quo survives in such environments, the powerful grow poweful and the weak weaker.

in the business world, positive thinking is enough to get you into the game. "positive knowing" is the arrogance that gets you through the rest of the BS once income/lifestyle security is reached. same with religion. again, no substantial differnitiation is made by myself.

i wouldn't call us "positive knowers". as ex wits, we have barely come out of "anti-knowing" into knowing. as far as "positivity" (upbeatness) is concerned, yes, way happier. which is to say that positive thinking has been freed up by the lack of cognitive dissonance.

tetra

kid-A

"What we've discovered is that successful people absolutely believe that they have the ability to succeed. And they will not entertain, think about, or talk about the possibilities that they'll fail. They do not even consider the possibility of failure."

This is true of pretty much every successful individual I have known, regardless of their chosen field.

SPAZnik

Is it necessary to say "positive" knowing?
Does it seem kind of redundant? or maybe even inaccurate?

Knowing just "is".
It just is.
Ya know?

Like knowing prosperity and financial success are not the same thing.
In the thinking there is room for making that a positive or a negative.
But in the knowing, it just is.

Positive Thinking vs Positive Knowing

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