Flags Banners Mentioned in the Bible

buffalosrfree

I have a disagreement with an individual on whether or not there is any mention of banners and flags in the bible. I have found one example and that was at Ps. 20:5; if anyone else has anymore examples or ideas, that would help greatly. tks in advance

carla

Sorry I can't find the example you are thinking of, have you tried Blue letter Bible or one of those and do a search with the word banner?

On the topic of banners/flags, I mentioned to my jw that they had their own types of flags or banners, his response was that they were approved by jah and our national flags today are not. Good grief.

betterdaze

Banner (NIV)

Exodus 17:15
Moses built an altar and called it The LORD is my Banner.

Numbers 2:2
"The Israelites are to camp around the Tent of Meeting some distance from it, each man under his standard with the banners of his family."

Psalm 20:5
We will shout for joy when you are victorious and will lift up our banners in the name of our God. May the LORD grant all your requests.

Psalm 60:4
But for those who fear you, you have raised a banner to be unfurled against the bow. Selah

Song of Solomon 2:4
He has taken me to the banquet hall, and his banner over me is love.

Song of Solomon 6:4
[ Lover ] You are beautiful, my darling, as Tirzah, lovely as Jerusalem, majestic as troops with banners.

Isaiah 5:26
He lifts up a banner for the distant nations, he whistles for those at the ends of the earth. Here they come, swiftly and speedily!

Isaiah 11:10
In that day the Root of Jesse will stand as a banner for the peoples; the nations will rally to him, and his place of rest will be glorious.

Isaiah 11:12
He will raise a banner for the nations and gather the exiles of Israel; he will assemble the scattered people of Judah from the four quarters of the earth.

Isaiah 13:2
Raise a banner on a bare hilltop, shout to them; beckon to them to enter the gates of the nobles.

Isaiah 18:3
All you people of the world, you who live on the earth, when a banner is raised on the mountains, you will see it, and when a trumpet sounds, you will hear it.

Isaiah 30:17
A thousand will flee at the threat of one; at the threat of five you will all flee away, till you are left like a flagstaff on a mountaintop, like a banner on a hill."

Isaiah 49:22
This is what the Sovereign LORD says: "See, I will beckon to the Gentiles, I will lift up my banner to the peoples; they will bring your sons in their arms and carry your daughters on their shoulders.

Isaiah 62:10
Pass through, pass through the gates! Prepare the way for the people. Build up, build up the highway! Remove the stones. Raise a banner for the nations.

Jeremiah 50:2
"Announce and proclaim among the nations, lift up a banner and proclaim it; keep nothing back, but say, 'Babylon will be captured; Bel will be put to shame, Marduk filled with terror. Her images will be put to shame and her idols filled with terror.'

Jeremiah 51:12
Lift up a banner against the walls of Babylon! Reinforce the guard, station the watchmen, prepare an ambush! The LORD will carry out his purpose, his decree against the people of Babylon.

Jeremiah 51:27
"Lift up a banner in the land! Blow the trumpet among the nations! Prepare the nations for battle against her; summon against her these kingdoms: Ararat, Minni and Ashkenaz. Appoint a commander against her; send up horses like a swarm of locusts.

Ezekiel 27:7
Fine embroidered linen from Egypt was your sail and served as your banner; your awnings were of blue and purple from the coasts of Elishah.

betterdaze

stand·ard /'stænd?rd/ [stan-derd] –noun
13. a flag indicating the presence of a sovereign or public official.
14. a flag, emblematic figure, or other object raised on a pole to indicate the rallying point of an army, fleet, etc.
15. Military.
a. any of various military or naval flags.
b. the colors of a mounted unit.
16. Heraldry. a long, tapering flag or ensign, as of a monarch or a nation.

Numbers 1:52
The Israelites are to set up their tents by divisions, each man in his own camp under his own standard.

Numbers 2:2, 3
"The Israelites are to camp around the Tent of Meeting some distance from it, each man under his standard with the banners of his family." On the east, toward the sunrise, the divisions of the camp of Judah are to encamp under their standard. The leader of the people of Judah is Nahshon son of Amminadab.

Numbers 2:10
(On the south will be the divisions of the camp of Reuben under their standard. The leader of the people of Reuben is Elizur son of Shedeur.

Numbers 2:17, 18
Then the Tent of Meeting and the camp of the Levites will set out in the middle of the camps. They will set out in the same order as they encamp, each in his own place under his standard. On the west will be the divisions of the camp of Ephraim under their standard. The leader of the people of Ephraim is Elishama son of Ammihud.

Numbers 2:25
On the north will be the divisions of the camp of Dan, under their standard. The leader of the people of Dan is Ahiezer son of Ammishaddai.

Numbers 2:31
All the men assigned to the camp of Dan number 157,600. They will set out last, under their standards.

Numbers 2:34
So the Israelites did everything the LORD commanded Moses; that is the way they encamped under their standards, and that is the way they set out, each with his clan and family.

Numbers 10:14
The divisions of the camp of Judah went first, under their standard. Nahshon son of Amminadab was in command.

Numbers 10:18
The divisions of the camp of Reuben went next, under their standard. Elizur son of Shedeur was in command.

Numbers 10:22
The divisions of the camp of Ephraim went next, under their standard. Elishama son of Ammihud was in command.

Numbers 10:25
Finally, as the rear guard for all the units, the divisions of the camp of Dan set out, under their standard. Ahiezer son of Ammishaddai was in command.

Psalm 74:4
Your foes roared in the place where you met with us; they set up their standards as signs.

Isaiah 31:9
Their stronghold will fall because of terror; at sight of the battle standard their commanders will panic," declares the LORD, whose fire is in Zion, whose furnace is in Jerusalem.

Jeremiah 4:21
How long must I see the battle standard and hear the sound of the trumpet?

buffalosrfree

betterdze tks for the info, am specifically looking for any info in the nwt as they of course think all other bibles are fallible with the exception of theirs of course.

betterdaze

The NWT on the Watchtower's own website is not searchable — God's sole channel to mankind cannot seem to manage it. Pity.

Perhaps someone here can search the NWT on the Library CD? Flag, banner, standard, ensign, emblem.

My hard-copy NWT omits "standard" from the book of Numbers ENTIRELY! Rewords all the passages to get around it. Psalms uses "sign" and "signal," Isaiah and Jeremiah "signal."

"Insight on the Scriptures" omits flag, banner and standard. The entry for "sign" focuses on signs of the end. The entry for "signal" refers to the Hebrew word "nes" and they define it as a stationary pole or stake occupying an elevated site... I checked two Hebrew lexicons for "nes" and they came up blank.

My interest in this goes back many years... I used to work for the publisher of a newspaper, The Jewish Standard. Everyone but me (a token goy) knew the name meant a flag, not a measurement of quality. A family standard would be similar to its coat of arms. But in most cases, it means a military or national flag.

*Evidently* the spirit-directed Watchtower translators removed or changed it.

~Sue

blondie

Only scripture in NWT that addresses the term "banner" as a flag:

(Psalm 20:5) We will cry out joyfully because of your salvation, And in the name of our God we shall lift our banners. May Jehovah fulfill all your requests.

It is interesting, that the WT-CD material sidesteps discussion of this term in the Bible and how to harmonize it with the WTS policy regarding flags.

http://bonasdancesite.homestead.com/flagsbible.html

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/xf-bible.html

http://www.flagworship.com/biblical.html

FYI websites, I'm did have a chance to read carefully, but a place to start.

Blondie

zack

Banner NWT Song of Solomon 3:4, Psalms 20:5

Insight on the Scriptures Volume 1 pg 397:

"Signs for the house of their fathers" were provided to help a person find his proper place in the camp. (Nu 2:2) Since the Hebrew expression de´ghel, rendered "three-tribe division," also means "banner" (as in Ca 2:4), it is possible that there were tribal markers as well as family ensigns. The Bible gives neither the number nor a description of these signs.

LongHairGal

I agree with Betterdaze's posts. Yes. Flags are mentioned in the bible. Where does everybody think that flags today came from? Everything today has an origin in the past. Flags are mentioned in the bible. They may have used a different name (banner, standard) but the idea is still the same. It is a flag, pure and simple. When I found this out years ago, I just despised the JWs for obscuring the truth from everybody.

The JWs differ just for the sake of being different.

LHG

Flags Banners Mentioned in the Bible

betterdze tks for the info, am specifically looking for any info in the nwt as they of course think all other bibles are fallible with the exception of theirs of course.

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