Saw an interesting short documentary about a woman who was a born Covenant-Breaker (which is Bahá'í for disfellowshipped) because she is the Great-Granddaughter of Bahá'ulláh whose Grandfather disagreed with the leadership, as well as the command that no Bahá'ís should live in Israel unless they are working for the Universal House of Justice (their Bethel). I also read somewhere that shunning in many Amish communities has been watered down to having to eat outside at Weddings and other communal events. The more comparisons are drawn between Jehovah's Witnesses and so called False Religions, the less they can claim to be the only True Religion.
JW Disfellowshipping vs. Amish Meidung vs. Bahá'í Covenant-Breaking
by SonoftheTrinity 5 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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kairos
What's the program called? -
SonoftheTrinity
It was called Bahais In My Backyard. The Bahais made a covenant with Israel to not live there and have their World Headquartered there instead, Their prophet Bahaullah is buried there. The funny thing is that his Great-Granddaughter is an Israeli citizen who has lived in Israel her whole life but is shunned by the Bahais because her grandfather disagreed with the leadership before they made that covenant. Imagine if Brooklyn were a small country and all of Rutherfords descendants lived right next door to the Bethel and they were all disfellowshipped for eternity you might understand the absurdity. She is a born apostate because an Israeli Bahai is an oxymoron. The reasoning of the Bahais is that if they were allowed to live in Israel they would all want to live in Haifa. -
OrphanCrow
The Ba'hai's are apostates themselves. They are viewed as apostates of Islam.
They have interesting history and teachings. The Ba'hai's are very different than the JWs, yet, at the same time, they have developed into an organizational hierarchy that is uncomfortably similar to the WTS. They have recently established a 'governing body' that is in charge of all things Ba'hai.
Notably, the Ba'hai's have a very different view than the JWs towards education. They promote higher education and also hold all of the creative arts in high regard.
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OrphanCrow
Besides 'covenant breaking' and disfellowshipping, both the JWs and the Ba'hai's lay claim to the date 1914 as fulfillment of prophecy. Except, with the Ba'hai's, it was their very own Abdu'l-Baha who prophesied that 1914 was to be the apocalypse:
In a newspaper article from Colorado around 1915, Abdu'l-Baha is pictured as the "Son of the Founder and Present Leader of the Baha'i Movement." A subheading entitled "Predicted War" goes on to say:
"At Leland Stanford university, in October, 1912, this same Abdu'l-Baha predicted the Great War: 'We are on the eve of the battle of Armageddon, referred to in the 16th chapter of Revelation. The time is two years hence when only a small spark will set aflame the whole of Europe."
World War I which began in August of 1914, on the date 'Abdu'l-Baha accurately predicted was considered by scholars, after the fact, to fulfill the same Biblical prophecies as given by 'Abdu'l-Baha. Yet 'Abdu'l-Baha gave the date of this event before it actual transpired in the world, and without the benefit of the "hindsight" of experts who saw, after the fact, that what 'Abdu'l-Baha gave and the date that he gave, was the explicit fulfillment of the prophecy and apocalyptic warning of God... -
Vidiot
Breakaway groups - no matter where they come from - can't not shun, it seems.