Does parents recover?

by Manjana 8 Replies latest watchtower medical

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  Manjana

  Hi everyone

  I am sitting here watching a video from youtube. About children who have died, because their parent refused to give them blood. It's awfull.

  But what I am thinking about, does anybody know what become of any of those parents? How are they doing? Does anybody know any parents who refused to let their child have a bloodtransfusion?

  To me it's very imortant, because I am colleting informations about how are the witnesses psycological doing? Also in this question. It could be interesting to know.

  It just hit me, while I was watching the video.

  Manjana
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  Missanna

  In my old congregation there was a sister that had a son die and they refused blood. she has never recovered. idon't know if they would have been able to save him with blood but i know that was a tramatic horrible thing that has scar'd her. I can't imagine the pain. What about if they find out afterward that the "truth" wasn't really the truth and they followed these people blindly and actually could have saved their child. OMG that is so horrifying. Good luck in your research. if you need any help i have a very twisted past that has left me very in need of mental health.
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  Manjana

  Hi Missana

  Thank you for sharing this information. It's what I thought, poor mother. I know many are thinking that the parents are horrible, because they can do such things. But we know, that they must have had a very strong believe. It's so terrifying, that a religion can cause these tragical cases. And I am so afraid, that if armagedon dos not come, many of those parent's would'nt be able to live with them selfes afterwards.

  I just wish, that I knew for sure, 100 % sure, if armagedon is comming. It still scares me, even if I have found out, so much about the JW, that is so wrong according to the bible.

  You write, that you have a very twisted past, that has left you in need of mental health. I feel so sorry for you. Have you got any help?

  I belong to a new started group in Denmark. You can find it under yahoo groups. You can chose to read the answers in english. The name are zofuzgruppe.jv. We have just started, but I sure hope that we can reach all the ex-witnesses who still suffer. Mostly ofcourse, it will be here in our part of the world. You have a great help, in Silent lambs here in USA, but you are also welcome to join our group. There already are a american ex-witness.

  If I can do anything for you, please let me know, and I will try to do everything I can. You are also welcome, to write to me in private or mailing to me, just tell me, and I will send my mail. adr. in private.

  Sincerely Manjana
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  Missanna

  you seem like a very caring and warm person. Thank you for caring so much. What i said was actually just trying to lighten the mood but is also true there are things in my past i can't seem to get over. different kinds of abuse and all done in the name of Jehovah. Which i do not hold against jehovah of course but i do hold it against the elders and the abusers. Something should have been done and never was. That was one of the main reasons i left before i started doing research and finding out that a lot of what they teach is a lie. I did go to therapy for a while when i was really young and started to rebel... lol but then after my parents decided that i was better because i was now answering at the watchtower again i never really got closure. but i dealing with it the best i can.
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  Manjana

  Dear Missana

  I am so sorry to hear about you abuse. I have never been abused, but my mother has and to of my very best girlfriends have been abused by their father and 3 more elders, from the same congregation, when they were litle girls. And they are still fighting, trying to get at normal live. They did go to the police and the elders. But they lost the case and are today disfellowshipped. Their father are still a witness an elder of good standing. He even was allowed to lead the congregation in a pray, right after it was known. Poor old man, everybody say's. He also did abuse my girlfriends children.

  My girlfriends could not remember what has happend, until for about 6 years ago. Here in Denmark there are a law, saying that after 20 years, (as I remember) the case is to old. But one of the sisters got pregnant by her father, when she was about 13-14, and when the litle girl was born, she was killed right after, by her father. It's simply so horryfeing, that it's difficult to understand. The police looked for the baby, digged all the land up, around the farm, but did'nt find it, so because of missing evidence, the case is now closed. It was hell, to go through for my girlfriends. The police believed them, but the elders did'nt. And in every congregation all ower in Denmark, they was pointed out as liars. So not only are they victims but also not believed in, and everybody accuses them to be liars.

  It just can't be Jehovahs true organisation. It just can't.

  My advise to you, try and contact Bill Bowen. He is absolutely a caring and a kind man who has been helping many victims. I am sure, that after a good long talk with him, you feel better. You are offcourse still more than welcome to write to me.

  And thank you so much, for all the nice words about me. That was so kind of you. :)

  It is important, that you starts to clean up inside of you. Have you talked to you doctor about it? He or she can help you to find the right help/person who can help you with that.

  I hope really hope you find a way, to come ower it completely. I will pray for you.

  Love from Manjana
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  Missanna

  thank you, i didn't mean to take over your discussion on the blood problem. This has just been on my mind. and i do need help i think. I just moved to another state away from my father and family and it has helped but i feel like it is all the sudden hitting me what went on. i am having nightmares about him which i never did before. I don't have much money but when i do get some i will be seeing someone about this. it makes me so angry to know my past is still affecting me like this. and i am soooo sorry to hear about your friends. That is horrible what they went through and i know it is still haunting them. all i can do is pray that they have peace of mind and be able to live their life. you are right this is NOT jehovah's organization jehovah would never allow these things to happen by his representatives of the congregation and his people. Someday there will be justice i don't know how or when but i beleive if there is a god that is as loving and caring as everyone believes it is impossibe that these things will go unpunished.
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  Manjana

  Dear Missana

  It does'nt matter, you don't take any discussion about the blood matter away. Not many are responding anyway as you can see. :)

  I think it's very important, that you have someone to write to about this. Have you thougth about contacting Silent lamb? I promise you, Bill Bowen is a very nice man. Or try to go to their home page, and write in their guestbook. Many people there have tried the same as you. Maluenda ex. have been abused herself, and she is so carring and a loving woman. That you feel that you are surrounded with love, while you are at the site.

  Yes I know it's tuff for you right now. And I know about nightmares, I have been told before. And I understand that you are angry, and thats good. Its so okay to be angry. Try and feel the anger, yell at your molester, write down all about what you are thinking, it help. Tell him, out in the blue air, that you just dont want him to do such things to you. I know it sounds crazy, but it will help.

  But you need to talk to somebody, it also will help a lot.

  My girlfriends does have a life, but sometimes it all comes back to them and they go down. But they have got a lot of psycological help. (Hope its spelled right). They are fighting and all the advises I just wrote, is the experiences they have told me, through time.

  Missana write to me, as often as you like, I am here for you. And think deeply about what I wrote, talk to Silent lamb. They have experience since 1992. Many ex-witnesses have phoned and talked to Bill Bowen and he have helped them a lot.

  I hope so much that you recover totally. I will pray for you.

  Sincerely Manjana
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  bluebell

  There was only ever one case in our cong, a little girl had leaukemia (sp?). Thankfully her father was not a witness and she got a blood transfusion and lived. Her father was not a nice man, he was very violent, in the end he killed his wife but he saved his daughters life. None of the family are witnesses any more.

  I don't know any other cases, not even in other congregations in the area.

  You seem a really nice person. I am glad you are helping people who were abused in Denmark like Silent Lambs helps in the US.
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  Manjana

  Hi Bluebell

  Thank you so much for you roses. :)

  It's was so sad to read about that family. Poor wife and daughter. What a tragedy. And a violent man. I was thinking why did'nt the wife leave him, with the childreen. Today it's okay to leave a husbond, if he is violent. But there are so many stories in the world, just as sad as this. If the watchtower was right, that would be wonderfull, with a paradise. Where such things did'nt happen.

  I have often thougt after leaving JW, well what now, no hope. But there is hope. There is a meaning with life. Just need to find it. :) No joke, I don't know what to belieave now. Time will show. I sure hope, that the daughter has recovered and are doing fine.

  I just want to tell you, that I am trying to help. But it's so difficult rigth now here in Denmark, because the ex-witnesses does'nt contact me. But I am not that vissible either yet. I have to think about my mother, I am afraid to disappoint her. She is almost 83. But I have to go public, when the scandinavian cooperation comes up running. But then she will know before. She shall not hear about it in the news.

  But else, I am doing all I can do, at this moment.

  Thank you for answering.

  Sincerely Manjana