by badboy 4 Replies latest jw friends
I WAS READING AN ARTICLE IN NATURE MAGAZINE ABOUT THE ORIGINS OF VARIOUS DISEASES AFFLICTING HUMANS AND HOW ANIMALS ARE THE ORIGINS OF THESE DISEASES.
AN INTERESTING THOUGHT,IF THOSE VIRUSES DIDN'T EXIST WHEN NOAH BUILT HIS ARK, WHERE ,HOW AND WHEN DID THEY ORIGINATED?
I WONDER HOW A JW WOULD ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
I WONDER HOW A JW WOULD ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
I've been out since 83. I think that a lot of people that defend creationism will acknowledge micro evolution, when I was a witness the witnesses refered to this as adaptation. Adaptation does not require the leap of faith to accept as Macro evolution which is evolution from and amoeba to a human being and evolution above the level of the species. Adaptation, micro evolution is used by creationist to describe what scientist see today, what everybody with eyes can see. Diet will make people in a region grow taller or shorter. But it takes faith to believe that a fish is going to crawl out of the sea and start walking as a man or that a man is going to crawl into the sea and live as a fish. To go beyond micro evolution aka adaptation is taking the same religious leap of faith as any other faith.
One definition of faith is believing in something that you just know isnt so. Scientist can say something is millions of years old but there is no way to know for sure as we dont know of anything that is a million years old to compare it too. So the first leap of faith is that the earth is a million years old or older and thats how they calabrate their dating machines. If man and the earth has always exhisted and if more advanced civilizations have exhisted there should be archelogical evidence. I havent heard of them digging up airplanes or tv sets that are thousands of years old.
I dont believe in the bible, But the science I believe in has to go by the scientific method and be capable of being demonstrated in a labratory. Anything less than that is joining another religion or cheering for somones hypothesis.
In my trying to make sense of where man came from, The theory that has the most tangible evidence, is that we were placed here, seeded by space people, Gods. The place I would offer to you to find tangible evidence would be to start with Eric Von Donakins "Chariots of the Gods" and also the writings of Zecharia Sitchin.
I think there is another dimension and the beings in the other dimension have designed and are manipulating the beings and bodies in this dimension and are probly amogst us inhabiting the bodies that they designed.
To me the exhistence and interface of this other dimension is why we can not make sense of our exhistence. Because most of science and most of man does not acknowledge it. Science does not acknowledge it because its exhistence can not be demonstrated by the scinefific method.
To answer your question as a former JW. Microevolution aka, adaptation.
I was asked to review a video which was based on the writings of Zecheria Sitchin. I watched it and was impressed with the very high production values, obviously someone went to a lot of trouble to make the presentation very slick and attractive. However, there was all kinds of scientific flaws and physical impossibilities. Basically, Sitchins work is an extension of Velikovsky's, with the idea was that many of the plagues and catastrophies mentioned in the Bible had actually happened, but not for the reasons mentioned in the Bible (i.e. not because an angry God made them happen). The "scientific" explanation offered was that the Solar System had rearranged itself drastically within the past few thousand years, based on the interpretation of some ancient symbols. In this video, the claim was made that some planets had passed within a few hundred miles of Earth (without the mutual gravitational tug destroying both planets), planets had orbited each other, or orbited Earth, some planets orbited with their axis always facing the Earth (physically impossible, try it with a gyroscope). And it doesn't really answer the question of "how did life begin", but just moves the origin to some other world, i.e. if Earth was seeded by aliens, how did THEIR species begin? I don't see this as "tangible evidence", but as "wild speculation", hardly a more satisfying explanation that saying an invisible spirit made those events happen. It amounts to just a different "made up" story as an explanation, with no "hard evidence" to support it. Since the topic of radiometric dating was brought up, I'll mention that it does at least follow the scientific method, radiometric dating is repeatable in any lab in the world. The half-life for carbon 14 or any other isotope is ALWAYS the same. It is reasonable to conclude the age of a fossil based on the radioactive isotopes present in the rock layer which contains that fossil. If you are interested in learning about how science works, I recommend any book by Carl Sagan (Dragons of Eden, Demon-Haunted World, Broca's Brain, Cosmos) over the works of Sitchin
AN INTERESTING IDEA,, SOME OF THE ANIMALS(RODENTS?) MUST HAVE HAD POXVIRUS IN THEM, OTHERWISE WHERE DID POXVIRUS COME FROM?
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