we got problems

by teejay 7 Replies latest jw friends

  • teejay
    teejay

    You probably heard about the guy breaking into the cockpit of a flight earlier this week. Edward Coburn was charged Tuesday with interfering with a flight crew, a federal felony. He is being held without bond.

    Even with all the preparations the crew had made in advance, the situation became critical within a split second, according to Dean Weber, the pilot of the airliner. "We thought we were better prepared than we were." Yeah, right.

    If there's good news about the incident, here it is:

    Coburn's father had warned flight attendants that his son was "mentally and physically unstable" and potentially violent.

    Armed with this information, prior to the flight, Weber and co-pilot Vince Belser discussed what they'd do if there was trouble out of this passenger.

    As a defense, they instructed flight attendants to block the cockpit door with a food cart. An off-duty pilot, J.C. Crowley, was asked to keep an eye on the guy.

    At about 150 miles from Chicago a flight attendant passed on a warning that Coburn appeared ready to "go nuts."

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    Here's the bad news, and if you have to fly, it's really bad, imo:

    With all of this advance warning/information about a single passenger that everybody knew about -- the father's warning, the pre-flight battle plan between the pilot and co-pilot, the eyes of flight attendants and an off-duty pilot watching -- with all of this, the man was still able to break into the cockpit!! I mean... are you kiddin' me????

    What I wanna know is, what happens when the average looking Joe Blow who's REALLY up to no good, I mean somebody with a real plan, saunters onto a flight, somebody no one's watching because no one's aware of him/her? If every precaution can be taken and a guy can still make it to the cockpit, I mean... we got real problems, here.

    "They scrambled two fighters, got the plane on the ground and took care of this man," said Capt. Tom Bloom, chairman of the Chicago chapter of the Allied Pilots Association. "The system worked."

    Oh really?

  • ashitaka
    ashitaka

    I know man, scary.

  • dungbeetle
    dungbeetle

    I have to fly in January and February and again in April.

    I really really hope it gets better than this. <sigh>

    Dungbeetle...so much dung, so little time...

  • LDH
    LDH

    Dude was from FRESNO, LOL.

    All I can say is he got lucky. The passengers had slow reaction times. If anyone on an airplane with my husband made one wrong move, WWF SMACKDOWN LOL. Kill first, ask questions later.

    Lisa

  • larc
    larc

    teejay,

    Thank you for posting this. It is, indeed, a serious situation. I thought the statement by the representative of the Pilot's association was especially incongruous. "The system worked."??? The back up system worked, but if things got worse, the fighter planes would have had to shoot down the passenger plane. I do not consider that to be a system that is working.

  • teejay
    teejay

    The back up system worked, but if things got worse, the fighter planes would have had to shoot down the passenger plane. I do not consider that to be a system that is working.

    That's what I'm talking about, Larc.

    The system worked? The guy who said that needs to be smacked in the mouth. What freaking system is HE talking about? The people on that plane were lucky.

    I'll tell you one thing... if I'm on a plane, everybody, and I mean EVERYBODY better act real cool or their gone be some tj kicking ass. Period. You wanna approach the cockpit? You better have a uniform, ID, note from your mother, halo around your head... or else, there WILL be trouble. F**k "the system" the dumbass was talking about...

    ... uh.... sorry, y'all. Uh.... kinda lost it there....

  • NameWithheld
    NameWithheld

    More panic... <sigh> the reason this one man was not ripped a new one by every passenger on board is they were aware off his mental problems, just like the crew (by that time). So there was no real threat. Trust me, someone tries a 'real' hijacking, and there will be hell to pay. It's not going to be easy to rip off a plane anymore.

    BTW, I've flown, and will continue to do so. People need to quit living in fear all the time and get on with it ... if something happens, deal with it, but until then don't live consumed in fear, that's no good...

  • teejay
    teejay

    You miss my point, NameWithheld. He should have never made it to the cockpit door, let alone into the cockpit itself. Yes, they now know that he has mental problems... did they know it beforehand? And, if they knew beforehand, was it okay to loose sight of him long enough for him to do what he did?

    I could be wrong... I hope I'm wrong, but I think the reason he was able to do what he did is because he is American. Otherwise, they would never lost sight of him.

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