The other day I posted, on a thread, that the only good Elder was a dead one. I regret that comment and ask amends to those that were offended....if any....
By "death" I was thinking "inactive in that roll." Like: Are there any "good" meth dealers, or "good pediphiles."
A person could become "dead" by stopping bad action and taking a different course in whatever evil they are involved in.
So, the best answer I guess, on that thread, was "an ex Elder."
Sorry for stumbling around......
Yours in this Journey,
V