WT Organisation is "The Christ"

Gordy

Just came across this at http://www.courierpostonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007706090311

Posted by a JW calling themselves "Kudra"

1.
No, "the Christ" is not Jesus, as we Jehovah's witnesses believe (in the context of our convention title) so we would not just say "Jesus". "The Christ" is the collective group of spirit-directed men here on earth that make the truth of Jehovah known to the nations. They will interpret the deeper thing of the bible that we may not understand on our own.

2.
God needs to make his will known and he gave us the bible but we could not understand it if it were not for this group of spirit directed men. Many of the understandings that Jehovah's Witnesses hold are different from churches of the world, even those that profess to be Christian. This is because we are the only religion that is chosen to have a true understanding of the bible and Jehovah's will.

3.
Jehovah has always had a remnant of spirit-directed chosen ones on the earth. Today it happens to be the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses to show the world the truth about the future of humankind.

4.
Annointed means "chosen".

5.
Correct, correct and we are being taught the the truth about the future of this world and what we need to do to survive the great day and tribulation of our god Jehovah. Not all who call on the name of god will be saved.

-Kudra

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I must say, and all who have been to the convention will agree, that "the Christ" is actually God's representative on earth, The Governing Body, chosen out of the anointed of Jehovah to provide information -Jehovah's mouthpiece, really- to His followers here on earth.

Some have been mislead as they tend to worship Jesus more than God his father. But, the Christ is actually the anointed here on earth. And to "follow the Christ" in actuality means to follow the teachings of the Governing Body who Jehovah has guided, with his spirit, to give us the teachings of truth.

Agape,

Kudra

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Also did anyone see this:-

April 1st 2007 Watchtower?

pg 24 para 13 states

"It is to this holy temple class that Jesus has entrusted his earthly belongings, which means that certain rights and responsibilities within the Christian congregation belong exclusively to this collective slave. For this reason, all in the congregation view it as their sacred duty to follow and uphold the direction coming from the faithful slave and its Governing Body."

Gopher

Gordy,

You might want to check out this thread from last night: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/16/135874/1.ashx

Here our poster Kudra explains a little bit about how she was giving some sly answers from the 'viewpoint' of a JW, while putting it out there that the convention's whole point was to reinforce loyalty to the organization rather than to Jesus.

Gordy

Thanks Gopher

I didn't know it was already on the forum.

I came across it today on an ezboard exJW forum.

I know the "Christ/organisation" thing goes back a long way. I don't think even many JW's realise how they have been manipulated into the situation.

It seems that this years conventions are, as said, reinforcing loyalty to the organisation. They are trying to "lock in" those still in the WT.

I can see that if anyone leaves they can to said to be "denying the Christ" an even bigger excuse to shun people.

To many JW's are just content to sit there an just take it in. No questions asked.

sweet pea

One word - Blasphemy

Anti-Christ

One word - Blasphemy

I agree and I'm not even a believer.

38 Years

Kudra may be "enlightening" others about the real truth behind the Witnesses. She seems to be fueling the myths instead of "debunking" them.

"Witnesses consider Jesus as the greatest of Jehovah's Witnesses," according to one prepared statement.

If anyone has the source for this "prepared statement", it would be great to have.

Locutus of Borg

This is just one of the reasons I walked back in '97. Even then it was apparent to me that such was the case. I remember telling some elders and others that I felt that the org was placing itself in a mediators role between me and Christ, and that that was wrong. My exact words were to the effect that "Jesus says that no man comes to the father except through me, but the org say that no man gets to the Christ except through them, this is WRONG"

I am so glad I am out of that kult.

VanillaMocha73

Jesus is not the mediator for all....
Direct quote: The Desire for Peace and Security Worldwide, page 10:
Likewise, the Greater Moses, Jesus Christ, is not the Mediator between Jehovah God and all mankind. He is the Mediator between his heavenly Father, Jehovah God, and the nation of spiritual Israel, which is limited to only 144,000 members. This spiritual nation is like a little flock of Jehovahs sheeplike ones.Romans 9:6; Revelation 7:4.
I doubt that the average Witness has caught on that Jesus is not their mediator... but the Bible sure does not say that....

Kudra

Hi all,

I started a reply to that courier article and it kinda came out like I was a dub so I just went with it...

What I was trying to do was write down what the JWs ACTUALLY believe in a way that shows how horribly audacious their beliefs really are.

I was trying to get by by not raising any red flags with real JWs so that everyone would just think that I was the JW authoritaaaaay.

I want to expose the party line and make it sound so bad and still be in the bounds of whta the dubs actually believe.

Do you guys think that this idea worked well?

-K

p.s.- I don't get what you mean by blasphemy... sorry to be dim.

Kudra

Gordy,

Could you give me the link to the board that was talking about th courier article? I think it would be interesting to see if anyone was ripping on poor old faithful dubbie Kudra...

:)

-K

WT Organisation is "The Christ"

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