Fred Thompson says.............

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  • hillbilly
    hillbilly

    Signs of Intelligence?

    By Fred Thompson

    One of the things that's got to be going through a lot of peoples' minds now is how one man with two handguns, that he had to reload time and time again, could go from classroom to classroom on the Virginia Tech campus without being stopped. Much of the answer can be found in policies put in place by the university itself.

    Virginia, like 39 other states, allows citizens with training and legal permits to carry concealed weapons. That means that Virginians regularly sit in movie theaters and eat in restaurants among armed citizens. They walk, joke, and rub shoulders everyday with people who responsibly carry firearms — and are far safer than they would be in San Francisco, Oakland, Detroit, Chicago, New York City, or Washington, D.C., where such permits are difficult or impossible to obtain.

    The statistics are clear. Communities that recognize and grant Second Amendment rights to responsible adults have a significantly lower incidence of violent crime than those that do not. More to the point, incarcerated criminals tell criminologists that they consider local gun laws when they decide what sort of crime they will commit, and where they will do so.

    Still, there are a lot of people who are just offended by the notion that people can carry guns around. They view everybody, or at least many of us, as potential murderers prevented only by the lack of a convenient weapon. Virginia Tech administrators overrode Virginia state law and threatened to expel or fire anybody who brings a weapon onto campus.

    In recent years, however, armed Americans — not on-duty police officers — have successfully prevented a number of attempted mass murders. Evidence from Israel, where many teachers have weapons and have stopped serious terror attacks, has been documented. Supporting, though contrary, evidence from Great Britain, where strict gun controls have led to violent crime rates far higher than ours, is also common knowledge.

    So Virginians asked their legislators to change the university's "concealed carry" policy to exempt people 21 years of age or older who have passed background checks and taken training classes. The university, however, lobbied against that bill, and a top administrator subsequently praised the legislature for blocking the measure.

    The logic behind this attitude baffles me, but I suspect it has to do with a basic difference in worldviews. Some people think that power should exist only at the top, and everybody else should rely on "the authorities" for protection.

    Despite such attitudes, average Americans have always made up the front line against crime. Through programs like Neighborhood Watch and Amber Alert, we are stopping and catching criminals daily. Normal people tackled "shoe bomber" Richard Reid as he was trying to blow up an airliner. It was a truck driver who found the D.C. snipers. Statistics from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show that civilians use firearms to prevent at least a half million crimes annually.

    When people capable of performing acts of heroism are discouraged or denied the opportunity, our society is all the poorer. And from the selfless examples of the passengers on Flight 93 on 9/11 to Virginia Tech professor Liviu Librescu, a Holocaust survivor who sacrificed himself to save his students earlier this week, we know what extraordinary acts of heroism ordinary citizens are capable of.

    Many other universities have been swayed by an anti-gun, anti-self defense ideology. I respect their right to hold those views, but I challenge their decision to deny Americans the right to protect themselves on their campuses — and then proudly advertise that fact to any and all.

    Whenever I've seen one of those "Gun-free Zone" signs, especially outside of a school filled with our youngest and most vulnerable citizens, I've always wondered exactly who these signs are directed at. Obviously, they don't mean much to the sort of man who murdered 32 people just a few days ago.

    — Fred Thompson is an actor and former United States senator from Tennessee.

  • Gopher
    Gopher

    I would expect Fred Thompson to support the NRA position on this subject because he is politically conservative and wants the conservative / NRA vote.

    His essay's third paragraph begins with the sentence "the statistics are clear", and then cites not even one statistic, just a lot of anecdotal evidence (some of which may be true).

    There are other statistics too, and it didn't take long via an Internet search to find them. Here's a page on Gun Violence Research from the Brady Center (opposed to the NRA) with a different take. http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/research/?page=conctruth&menu=gvr If their statistics are right, then we need to understand why liberal 'carry and conceal' laws don't always lead to lower crime rates.

    Here are just a few statistics from this site:

  • For several years now, the nation's crime rate has fallen – but the drop in crime has not been spread equally throughout the country. As a group, states that chose to fight crime by loosening their concealed weapons laws had a significantly smaller drop in crime than states which looked to other means to attack crime in their communities.

  • Violent crime actually rose in 3 of 11 states (27%) that relaxed CCW laws prior to 1992 over the six years beginning in 1992, compared to a similar rise in violent crime in only 4 of 22 states (18%) which had restrictive CCW laws or did not permit the carrying of concealed weapons.

  • Between 1992 through 1998 (the last six years for which data exists), the violent crime rate in the strict and no-issue states fell 30% while the violent crime rate for states that liberalized carry laws prior to 1992 dropped half as much — by 15%. Nationally, the violent crime rate fell 25%.

  • Additionally, the robbery rate also fell faster in states with strict carry laws. Our analysis found that between 1992 and 1998, the robbery rate in strict and no issue states fell 44% while the robbery rate for the states that liberalized carry laws prior to 1992 dropped 24%. Nationally, the robbery rate fell 37%.

  • bigdreaux
    bigdreaux

    AHMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't wait to vote for this guy. People don't understand how true and how important these words are.

  • bigdreaux
    bigdreaux

    fact is gopher, if someone would have had a gun, the virginia tech body count could have been way lower. it takes an alligence of police and citizens to defend us from crime. police are reactionary, they only come once the crapt goes down. if a person is shown he or she is mentally, and physically able to carry a concealed weapon, they should be able to. i don't care how many laws you make to keep criminals from having guns, they will get them. they don't excately play by the rules.

    oh, yes mr. government, i'm a bad boy, here, take my guns.

    yeah right, it is up to all of us to fight crime, not just rely on the police.

  • Double Edge
    Double Edge

    I'd vote for that guy in a N.Y. second.

  • LtCmd.Lore
    LtCmd.Lore

    The statistics are clear. Communities that recognize and grant Second Amendment rights to responsible adults have a significantly lower incidence of violent crime than those that do not. More to the point, incarcerated criminals tell criminologists that they consider local gun laws when they decide what sort of crime they will commit, and where they will do so.

    No kidding. Who wants to try to murder a group of armed people?

    I'd vote for him. We could use some intelligent leaders.

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