Mind Control? or just usual group processes?

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  • January
    January

    I have limited knowledge about mind control from the psychology degree I have just finished. I had been unhappy with my life as a witno for a long time but one particular lecture really pushed me to the point of leaving and after that lecture I never returned to the meetings. The lecture was on brain washing tactics employed in the military, there were so many points that struck a chord with me. The tactics that the millitary use can explain the torture of prisoners such as those in ABU Graib, obviously I am not suggesting that JWs are brain washed to the point of torturing others not of the jw fold (well they do that when they knock on the doors - joke!) but the mind control techniques can explain the act of shunning!! something so hard to understand by anyone not conditioned by the jws! Also explained is the prejudiced of "worldlies" something I felt much cognitive disonance over! I could never allign myself with hating worldlies who are good people!!

    I have summarised the main points of the lecture - let me know if you agree with the parallels I have drawn?

    GROUP PROCESSES IN THE MILITARY: INTRA- & INTER-GROUP RELATIONS

    1. Intra-group relations: Social identity processes within the military How is a military identity formed?

    a) Some argue that this process begins with the depersonalization (see Tajfel, 1978) of the soldier and countering of their civilian identity

    b) Changes in the self concept (Kuhn & McPartland, 1954; Moreland, 1985): ‘orientation’ denotes the process that soldiers undergo upon joining the army, beginning with ceremonial initiation (see Moreland & Levine, 1982), such as oath-taking, bootcamp, unofficial rites of passage

    Disadvantages of deindividuation/ a military identity: self-stereotyping by soldiers. Based on Branscombe et al’s (1998) work on social identity threat, soldiers with a high military identity are likely to respond to identity-related threat as follows:

    N.b.:- Unpleasant initiations may lead to better evaluation of the military group than mild initiations (Aronson & Mills, 1959)

    c) Interdependence of fate: (see Lewin, 1948) safety of each soldier depends on co-soldiers, whilst in combat – this may lead to higher valuing of the ingroup (Rabbie & Horwitz, 1969)

    d) Cohesion: the extent to which soldiers are attracted to the idea/ prototypes of the military may influence their behaviour and attitudes and enhance group solidarity (Hogg, 1992)

    Disadvantages of cohesion: Remember Groupthink and Risky Shift (Janis, 1982)? What are the likely consequences of a cohesive group of soldiers for decision-making?

    2. Intergroup relations: perceptions and treatment of outgroups In general, the mere presence salient categorization can cause:

    a) Illusions of outgroup homogeneity (Judd et al, 2005): this is the illusion that outgroup members are more similar to each other than is in the case in ones own ingroup. Mullen & Hu’s (1989) meta-analysis found that the effect was strongest in real groups. Where does a military group fall on the continuum?
    Real group Minimal group

    b) Prejudice against the outgroup (Tajfel & Turner, 1979) and maltreatment of outgroup captives/outgroup members
    Group identity is not necessarily predictive of outgroup hate (Brewer, 1999), but salient categories may predict prejudice (see SCT, Turner, et al, 1987)

    c) Infra-humanization: involves reduced attribution of human characteristics to the outgroup

    Perhaps outgroups are also viewed as being easily “mind-controlled”

    The British Army has the “15 (UK) Psychological Operations Group” and the US Army has

    • “PsyOps”
    • Disorientation of captives
    • Sending of ‘subliminal messages’
    • Administration of drugs (e.g. LSD)
    • Humiliation and threat to captives’ dignity/ values
    • US PsyOps is not permitted to conduct operations on US soil

    3. The Superordinate identity: the military and the nation

    Being in the military is arguably equated with being patriotic and serving the nation

    Objecting soldiers are often treated as traitors (or as ingroup ‘norm deviants’, see Abrams et al, 1992; they also found that people with high group identity are likely to treat deviants most harshly

    The norm of a soldier as a prototypical citizen may be seen as having been ‘violated’

    Desertion of the army is an offence in many countries; e.g. At the extreme, hundreds of British soldiers were executed for desertion in the 1st world war. The US maximum penalty for desertion is execution.

    Many US-Vietnam/Iraq war conscientious objectors exiled themselves to Canada

    Conclusion

    Social identity processes are an important of asset in the military - e.g. interdependence of fate can be crucial in battle

    The role of categories in the military/in battle may underpin simplistic perceptions of the outgroup – including infrahumanization

    National identity is an important superordinate category in the military, as well as other military super-ordinate identities

  • RollerDave
    RollerDave

    This looks fascinating, but was likely done on a Mac, so the formatting is all lost.

    Could we get one of our nice and helpful forum assistant's to break it up into paragraphs so we can read and comment?

    Thanks

    Roller

  • yaddayadda
    yaddayadda

    A bit of both. There is information (mind) control and Groupthink with JW's. Groupthink is an immensely powerful force that is somewhat underestimated and JW's are one of the greatest religious examples of it.

  • Warlock
    Warlock

    Mind Control?

    My eyes have just been assaulted.

    Warlock

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    Hope you don't mind the editing to improve legibility.

    I do agrre that amny of the tactics are the same. Military training is harsh and controlling. They definitely remove the "old personality" and replace it with the soldier.

    But I think there are some very important differences between military training and mind control.

    Whern a person enlists (or is drafted) they know the outcome, if they succeed,.will be that they are a soldier and trained to do a specific job. It means separation from family and friends for a time but they are not forbidden to speak to their family or told to cut them off. In fact most of the info we get is that soldiers are encouraged to stay in contact with their family and friends back home.

    Enlistment is usually for a specified about of time and then they are free to return home. There is an end date unlike high control groups who never let you go. And if you do leave all family and friends who decide to stay are not instructed to stop all contact with you.

    Granted leaving early is viewed as a military crime and there may be some discipline for that but they still have family and friends who have not been ordered to never talk to them again.

    Joining a high control group, or cult, is very different. People do not know what they are getting into. There is no enlistment forms to sigh, no clear goal from the time a person is contacted. They are slowly manipulated into giving up more and more of their lives. Once "enlisted" there is no graceful way out. There is no full disclosure to let people know what they are getting into.

  • Vernon Williams
    Vernon Williams

    Jan,

    Keep posting....enjoying your comments...

    V

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