Showing love by sleeping with prostitutes and encouraging wrongdoing ...

by Frequent_Fader_Miles 6 Replies latest jw experiences

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  Frequent_Fader_Miles

  Further to my earlier post about the conversation I had with a depressed JW friend who was baptized at 12 years old ...

  She knows I married a non-JW, but doesn't know of my fading. She asked me whether I would help my husband with Christmas shopping and gift wrapping. Of course my answer was yes, but I decided to avoid answering directly and pick her brain a bit. Why do you ask, was my response. Well, as it turns out, the married, visually impaired, Catholic man she loves posed the very same question to her. He wanted to know whether she would help him out if she was his wife. Her answer to him was no, since she felt that helping him with Christmas shopping was partaking in Paganism.

  At this point I answered: "Yes I would help my husband with the Christmas shopping." (As a matter of fact we even celebrated his mom's birthday earlier that day ). I even told her that in my opinion, her helping out her visually impaired husband would be showing Christ-like love, especially since hypothetically she would be married to an "unbeliever". After all, didn't Jesus himself even associate with prostitutes and tax collectors? Her retort was: "Yes he did. But Jesus didn't go around sleeping with the prostitutes to show them love, or encourage the tax collectors in wrongdoing just to show love." Sigh ... what a dumb analogy. I almost laughed out loud, but refrained from doing so. Her level of brainwashing astounded me.

  Here I was, having to explain why assisting a visually impaired person to do something important to HIM should be considered as showing love.
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  Insomniac

  When I was still a witness, I helped an elderly lady in my town put up her Christmas decorations. I knew the elders would have had a fit over it, but I felt (and still feel) that I did the right thing. She was in her 80's and in poor health, so she had the choice of doing it herself, and possibly falling off the ladder, or foregoing her decorations altogether. Bottom line, I helped her, it made her happy, it hurt nobody, and if anything it left her with a more positive impression of witnesses than if I'd let her fend for herself. It just sucked that I had to ask her to not tell her witness acquaintances so I wouldn't get hauled into a j.c. in the back room.
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  zack

  If the WTS can find any reason for NOT helping someone, it will.
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  Marcel

  okay, lets be honest.
  i wouldnt help my wife doing xmas shopping even if i wouldnt be in the "truth" anymore.
  xmas is silly imho but if she wants it she can do it. but i wouldnt help (except some carrying or something). xmas is just another stupid invention by religious liars.
  
  i think the argument of your jw friend is okay. its really something different whether you "accept" behaviour or help doing it. if you think someone risks his life by doing something its not smart helping him doing it. thats just the way JW see xmas and stuff.
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  Gill

  Jehovah's witnesses are amongst the most superstitious people in the world! No doubt she was afraid that should the Big A come as she was wrapping Christmast presents she would be amongst that big pile of bird food that her loving god was going to produces. A friend of my dad's asked him to look after his Christmas tree for a couple of days before he took it to his grandchildren's as a surprise. He agreed!

  My mother nearly threw a hissy fit, in fact she did! She refused to help him move it into the conservatory proclaiming she would not even place one little finger on that 'blasphemous tree!'
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  lisavegas420

  At 18 I helped my non-JW's inlaws wrap Christmas presents. They were amazed at how professional I was at wrapping when I had never wrapped a Christmas present or birthday presents before in my life. I was quite proud of myself

  lisa
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  Frequent_Fader_Miles

  Marcel wrote:

  i think the argument of your jw friend is okay. its really something different whether you "accept" behaviour or help doing it. if you think someone risks his life by doing something its not smart helping him doing it. thats just the way JW see xmas and stuff.

  If she was so bent on doing everything the JW way, then why marry a Catholic, visually impaired man (whom she knew from the beginning would NEED help with this stuff anyway), only to refuse to help out when he asks? After all, I'm sure he would support her in areas that he wouldn't necessarily agree with himself. Besides, from the JW perspective she would be risking her own life by doing something "not smart" and marrying a "non-believer".