The real terrorism?

by sammielee24 6 Replies latest jw friends

  • sammielee24
    sammielee24

    I suppose you all heard about the horrific rape and murder of the mother and 2 girls that took place last week. This was the result of a home invasion and brutality. I got to thinking about that and it led me to try and define terrorism. We normally think of it in political or idealogical terms, but I wonder if we miss the boat in our own waters?

    We have alarms on our cars. We dismantle our bikes to avoid theft. We don't walk freely at night for fear of assault. We don't park too far away from the main doors of a building for safety sake. We don't pick up strangers. We don't make eye contact. We don't offer to help. We buy guns or mace for protection. We give our kids cellphones in case of emergency. We have deadbolts on our doors and in some cities, we have 3 and 4 locks on our doors for protection. We have locks on our windows and alarms systems in our houses. We have guard dogs. We have security lights. And still we are afraid in our own homes. Is this not terrorism? (living in terror from threat or implied threat of violence on our persons or property)

    The US has the highest rate of its population in prison equal to or greater than China. In the world. We have about 13,000 murders every year - but in fighting the war on terror in Iraq almost 4,000 of our people have died over 4 years. We have our border patrols in prison for shooting at a drug runner that now has a pass into the USA. In fact, those border patrols are being reduced by 50% in the next few months because there is no funding.

    Why is it we don't declare a war on terror here? Just wondering...sammieswife.

  • Who are you?
    Who are you?

    Excellent question sammieswife

    I'm not veering left on you, but since so much of the crime and imprisonment is drug related, you've got to wonder if we are missing the boat by not having a discussion on the legalization of drugs. In reality we are currently a nation of drug addicted prozac, zanax, oxycontin popping individuals. Not to mention alcohol. That stuff can be as addictive as anything we currently ban. Prisons are filled with people who got caught with a little too much pot.

    I'm not going off the deep end here, and I'm not a drug user....I promise. I'm not advocating the legalization of all drugs. I just never hear it discussed. If you look at prohibition and the banning of alcohol, what happened? Crime. Maybe not in your neck of the woods, but in Chicago where I grew up.

    Aren't the illegal drug users (crack heads) just going to the dealers and the legal drug using suburban addicts going to their doctors?

    Sorry for the rant. It felt good to say it, even if it makes no sense whatsoever.

  • greendawn
    greendawn

    The gun culture in the USA is so deeply rooted I doubt if it can ever be eradicated. Gun ownersip is perceived as a fundamental right. With so many guns it's not surprising that there are 13 000 murders an astonishing number. In England and Wales around 700 persons were murdered in 2006. Even adjusting for population differences that would have beeen equivalent to around 4 000 murders if we had the usa population.

  • jaguarbass
    jaguarbass

    Weve been Bushwacked. Theres a dingbat driving the bus.

  • ColdRedRain
    ColdRedRain

    To greendawn: You just committed the fallacy of cum hoc ergo propter hoc.

  • Forscher
    Forscher
    The gun culture in the USA is so deeply rooted I doubt if it can ever be eradicated. Gun ownersip is perceived as a fundamental right. With so many guns it's not surprising that there are 13 000 murders an astonishing number. In England and Wales around 700 persons were murdered in 2006. Even adjusting for population differences that would have beeen equivalent to around 4 000 murders if we had the usa population.

    The right to gun ownership isn't just a perceived right Greendawn, it is guaranteed by the Second Amendment to the Constitution. The reason it was put there GD was because the founding fathers didn't trust the government they created and wanted to insure that the populace would be armed as a check on governmental power. Don't trust me on that, look it up for yourself.

    There are few things that Criminal Justice experts can say for certain. One of those few things is that almost all violent criminals admit that if they are certain that a potential target is armed and willing to use that force, they will leave them alone! Thus the most significant reason for the rise in violent crime in the U.S. or anywhere is the disarming of the law-abiding public, period. And that doesn't just go for guns! It is just simple self-interest and preservation.

    Take England. They were concerned with violent crime there. So, ideological judges started punishing those who defended themselves more severely than violent offenders. Violent crime went up when folks got the message that injuring somebody in the act of defending oneself would result in long jail terms. "Ah, but it must be the guns" the liberals said. So, Gun ownership was restricted and finally banned in most cases. And crime went up even more. Now guess what? They are going after knives over there. "What is the definition of insane?" asked a serial killer in the movie Con Air. "Doing the same thing which failed over and over again and expecting better results!" was his answer. Yet, that is what folks are doing over there in jolly old England!

    The results are the same on this side of the pond. The highest violent crime, occurs in areas where personal weapons for self-defense, including but not limited to guns, are banned and people are penalized for defending themselves. The lowest violent crime rates occur in places where people are allowed to be armed and defend themselves. Time and again studies with any semblance of impartiality bear that out. That is why uber-liberal anti-gun researchers like Gary Kleck and others have reversed their long held positions against gun ownership after doing the research themselves. It is as simple as that.

    And yet, we have a highly dedicated group over here who are trying to do what folks over in England are succeeding in doing despite all of the credible evidence against it. But them considering their firm belief that absolute government control over all aspects of the lives of our citizenry is the answer to everything, it isn't hard to see why they ignore the obvious.

    I would rather stick with proven strategies than wishful thinking. We are terrorized by criminals here in many places because they have free reign and face an unarmed populace. Give us back our right to defend ourselves by whatever means is most appropriate, including guns and other arms, and violent crime will take a big nose dive and folks will be much safer. That is the best way to end the "terrorism" on the part of the criminal element here.

    Forscher

  • Stealth453
    Stealth453

    Why is it we don't declare a war on terror here?

    I don't know about the rest of the world, but if one did this in Canada, one would be branded a racist.

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