WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ACCEPT GOD BLINDLY

by journey-on 5 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • journey-on
    journey-on

    I can't remember where I read this, but it struck a chord with me a while back and I saved it. As we struggle individually with our belief in God, the story of Jacob wrestling with the man or angel sheds an interesting light on the subject:

    "The fact that Jacob wrestled with the man all night with neither gaining an advantage over the other suggests that the man was his equal in size, strength, and endurance. When the book says, "And he said, Let me go, for the day breaketh," it is at first unclear which man is speaking, Jacob or the stranger. As Igloowhite pointed out, the passage says nothing about the man being an angel until he renames Jacob Israel. Many biblical commentators have taken this to mean that Jacob was wrestling (metaphorically, perhaps) with himself and his own ideas about G-d.

    This is significant (to me, at least) because the Jews are known as b'nai yisrael, or the Children of Israel, the man who struggled with G-d. They are not the Children of Abraham, who had everything figured out and believed in G-d to the point where he would sacrifice his own son for Him. They are the children of the man who wrestled with his internal misgivings all night and did not even conquer them, but walked away wounded. What I take from that is that we are not supposed to accept G-d blindly, but instead to argue and struggle with Him and with ourselves, perhaps for all of our lives, even if we do not get a clear answer."

  • JamesThomas
    JamesThomas

    What I take from that is that we are not supposed to accept G-d blindly, but instead to argue and struggle with Him and with ourselves, perhaps for all of our lives, even if we do not get a clear answer."

    I struggled with God for years, or more accurately with the deity idea I was raised to believe in. By far the deepest hatred and anger I have ever experienced was directed at this "God". I came to hate and despise him for every tear ever shed by humanity. If he would have entered the room during one of my many outrages, and I had the power to kill him, I would have with vigor and glee.

    Strangely, it was during my last explosively murderously episodes directed at "God", that the first glimpse of eternally pure consciousness was seen. The very same awareness looking out these eyes was watching the whole thing with totally unconditional nonjudgment and untouched perfection (words fail), and it was closer and more intimate than anything ever felt. I was, I am this foundational Purity. So is everyone and everything.

    Then, I walked away from all beliefs and mental concepts of the Divine, never to return.

    j

  • journey-on
    journey-on

    JT

    the first glimpse of eternally pure consciousness was seen. The very same awareness looking out these eyes was watching the whole thing with totally unconditional nonjudgment and untouched perfection

    I think perhaps you found the Divine Presence in that experience.

  • Gopher
    Gopher

    ... still waiting for God to touch me on the thigh and make me limp worse than I already do ....

  • LongHairGal
    LongHairGal

    JamesThomas:

    I understand where you are coming from. I could not stand the idea that we are just pawns in some horrible game. My negative experience with the JW religion has only revealed deeper issues with the supreme being/God. The profound hatred I feel cannot be ignored. Most of my hate comes not just from the fact that it is all unfair cosmically but the fact that human beings have striven to put themselves on God's level and oppress other people and make presumptuous claims - hoping to appeal to people's fear of destruction, etc. The fact that it is all a charade and they know it at some level and have no real fear of punishment - because they don't really fear a true 'God' makes me so angry that I would like for these people to die horribly over and over again!

    I read somewhere that maybe the whole religion is a satanic plot to drive people away from God and not closer. Who knows. I am sure you are past caring. All I know is that I hate all religion in general.

    LHG

  • Awakened07
    Awakened07

    [never mind - I found the answer to my question]

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