some of the JW's I know think yoga is spiritism and can be DF for practicing. Others say it is question of conscience. What is general concenus here for your KH group?
Also, some say that vegetarianism goes back to animal worship. What says you KH ?
yoga/ vegetarianism are religions
by tula 7 Replies latest watchtower bible
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emy the infidel
I eat vegetarians. Isn't that even better?
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dobbie
I used to be told Yoga was dangerous as it let your mind 'empty' and prone to demon possession (that said i did go a few times with workmates but stopped as i couldn't relax enough!)
But whenever they knew i was a vegetarian they were always positive about that (except for usual don't know what your'e missing comments - uh i do, that's why i don't eat it) - they used to reckon that people were veggies before Noah and that they could be again in the 'new system'. In fact there were a couple of very strict vegans in our congregation too.
Lol i'm staying out of your way then emy!!!
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oompa
Tula, you already told me in a PM Yoga will turn you into a sex machine!! Of course it is spiritual, why do think people usually wind up saying "Oh God, God!"
don't know about the veggies but would not eat carrots doing the UpDog....oompa
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BrentR
If yoga is supposd to leave your mind open for demons than you could say the same thing about sleeping. I don't know about the rest of you but I have yet to be able to control my dreams.
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tula
oompa said: Tula, you already told me in a PM Yoga will turn you into a sex machine!!
No, oompa. The author of the article I sent you said that . You make it sound like I said it from experience or something. Please be careful what you say about me. You will have people here thinking I am some sort of weird nympho that gets hot and bothered doing jumping jacks.
In the Mediterranean, avoidance of flesh eating is first recorded as a teaching of the philosopher Pythagoras of Samos (c. 530 BC), who alleged the kinship of all animals as one basis for human benevolence toward other creatures. From Plato onward many pagan philosophers (e.g., Epicurus and Plutarch), especially the Neoplatonists, recommended a fleshless diet; the idea carried with it condemnation of bloody sacrifices in worship and was often associated with belief in the reincarnation of souls—and, more generally, with a search for principles of cosmic harmony in accord with which human beings could live. In India, followers of Buddhism and Jainism refused on ethical and ascetic grounds to kill animals for food. Human beings, they believed, should not inflict harm on any sentient creature.
The 17th and 18th centuries in Europe were characterized by a greater interest in humanitarianism and the idea of moral progress, and sensitivity to animal suffering was accordingly revived. Certain Protestant groups came to adopt a fleshless diet as part of the goal of leading a perfectly sinless life.
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oompa
Tula I am so glad you have a great sense of humor, and go easy on those jumping jacks. I did not mean "you" turn into a sex machine, I meant "anyone in general" lol.
anyone mentioning sex in yoga in same sentence is fair game!!.....oompa
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BluesBrother
I have never heard of an objection to vegetarianism - sounds like somebody wants to justify an apetite for Big Macs ! At one time they said that the New World would be veggie.
They said this about yoga though - this is an extract from the article
* w02 8/1 Yoga—Just an Exercise or Something More? ***
NotaChoiceforChristians
Whatever health instructors may say to the contrary, yoga does not stop with physical exercises. The book Hindu Manners, Customs and Ceremonies relates the experiences of two yoga novitiates who were under the guidance of a guru. One is quoted as saying: "I made superhuman efforts to hold my breath as long as possible, and only breathed when I was on the point of fainting. . . . One day, at high noon, I thought I saw a bright moon, which seemed to move and sway from side to side. Another time I imagined myself enveloped in thick darkness at midday. My director . . . was greatly pleased when I mentioned these visions to him. . . . The time was not far distant, he assured me, when I should experience much more surprising results from my penance." The second man relates: "He obliged me to stare at the sky every day without blinking my eyes or changing my position. . . . Sometimes I thought I saw sparks of fire in the air; at others I seemed to see fiery globes and other meteors. My teacher was much pleased with the success of my efforts."
The strange sights were evidently what the gurus felt were proper results along the way to the true aim of yogic exercises. Yes, the ultimate goal of yoga is moksha, explained as the merging with some impersonal great spirit. It is described as "the (intentional) stopping of the spontaneous activity of the mind stuff." This is clearly contrary to the goal set out for Christians, who are given the admonition: "Present your bodies a sacrifice living, holy, acceptable to God, a sacred service with your power of reason. And quit being fashioned after this system of things, but be transformed by making your mind over, that you may prove to yourselves the good and acceptable and perfect will of God."—Romans 12:1, 2.
The choice of what physical exercise to pursue is a personal one. Christians, however, would not allow anything—be it bodily training, eating, drinking, clothing, entertainment, or something else—to mar their relationship with Jehovah God. (1 Corinthians 10:31) For those exercising simply for the sake of their health, there are many avenues available that do not involve exposure to the dangers of spiritism and occultism. By keeping clear of practices and beliefs that are rooted in false religion, we may look forward to God’s blessing of a righteous new system of things in which we can enjoy perfect health in body and mind for an eternity.—2 Peter 3:13;