The Insight and Wisdom of Warren Jeffs

by CaptainSchmideo 8 Replies latest jw friends

  • CaptainSchmideo
    CaptainSchmideo

    I don't know how many of you are following the trial of Warren Jeffs, leader of a Mormon splinter sect, who is being prosecuted for arranging and advocating the marriage of young girls (14 years old and thereabouts) to much older men, with the parents' cooperation, of course.

    One of these victims testified that she was made to listen to recorded sermons by this guy pretty much throughout the day.

    CNN helpfully provided a snippet of one of his recordings:

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/09/11/fleeing.polygamy.hammon/index.html#cnnSTCOther1

    I am providing a transcript of the last bit, it's a howler, but it also sounds a little familiar

    I was watching a documentary the other day, and on came these people talking about a certain Black man. In the program, it was revealed that this Black man was homosexual, immoral, on drugs...the worst kind of person. And then it showed the modern Rock group, The Beatles. It showed them as pingy, pangy, unnoticed, useless people;nobody would hire them. And so, the manager of the group called in this Negro homosexual, on drugs, and the Negro taught them how to do it. And what happened then? They went world wide. And all other music has followed that pattern, the most famous of what we call the Rock groups. So when you enjoy the beat, the rock groups, maybe even toned down with an orchestra, you are enjoying the spirit of the Black race. And that is what I emphasize to my students. And it is to rot the soul, and lead the person into immorality, to corruption, to forget your prayers, to forget God...

    Now, if someone is even marginally a Beatles fan, you gotta wonder what this guy is smoking to come up with a story like this.

    For someone more familiar with their early days, you can see little seeds of accuracy in what is basically a big fib.:

    When the John Lennon and Paul McCartney started listening to Rock and Roll, and playing it themselves, they did have their favorites. One of Paul's biggest influences was Little Richard, who, in his private life, was a drug user and a homosexual. (He also quit Rock and Roll (for a little while, anyway) to pursue a career as a Minister, so I guess he and Jeffs have more in common than Jeffs would like to admit). As a group, the Beatles did not start out with a golden sun casting rays of success wherever they went. It was only after hard years of playing club gigs did they sharpen up their playing skills and their stage personas. Then it followed that they hired Brian Epstein as a manager (okay, he was gay too, but he wasn't black) who put them in the suits, and then they STILL had to be rejected by just about every company in Britain before they got hired by an oddball label called Parlophone, whose only other claim to fame was recordings of "The Goon Show". Not exactly hitting the big time right away. Actually, it wasn't until the height of Beatlemania a couple of years later that they finally did meet Little Richard, and by that time, he was becoming a has-been in the wake of The British Invasion. So, the pieces of Jeffs' story are there, but, wow! what a hodgepodge interpretation. Plus, as a bonus, we get the racist views of his, and believe me, mainstream Mormonism is just as racist, judging the things that one of my Mormon classmates used to say.

    I just find it a funny picture in my mind, as described by Jeffs: Here are the Beatles, portrayed as some kind of sad sack, worthless group, getting locked in a room with some drugged out homo black guy, who waves his magic wand and shows them "how to do it"! Then, out the door they go, and now everybody in the world just loves their music, and their careers are well established as soul rotting, immoral Pied Pipers (come to think of it, didn't John say that they were "bigger than Jesus"? Holy cow! Maybe Jeffs is right!).

    And what does "pingy pangy" mean, anyway?

    If you listen to the audio, what I found unnerving is the way his speech is delivered. I swear I have heard these same words delivered in Sunday talks, in the same manner, and the same tone of voice, with the same innaccuracies. All you need is a captive audience, and no forum for dissent, and you can say whatever you want to say, no matter how off the wall or inaccurate it might be.

    Anyway, thought you all might enjoy the laugh.

  • jaguarbass
    jaguarbass

    People and organizations have no problem lying and twisting the truth to get others to join their army.

    That makes it very difficult to find the truth about many things.

  • AWAKE&WATCHING
    AWAKE&WATCHING

    That creeped me out.

  • Burger Time
    Burger Time

    Yea what a fucking freak.

  • Burger Time
    Burger Time

    Also I think he is talking about Chuck Berry, whom the Beatles often cited as their major influence. Though Berry was an alcoholic and was black he wasn't a homosexual. What an idiot!

  • Double Edge
    Double Edge

    This is probably the first time he has had to deal with the REAL world....I hope he is "hung" out to dry.....

  • Double Edge
    Double Edge
    Plus, as a bonus, we get the racist views of his, and believe me, mainstream Mormonism is just as racist, judging the things that one of my Mormon classmates used to say.

    Oh pleeeze.... that view is as archaic as Warren Jeffs.... ask Gladys Knight (without the pips) who is Black and who joined the Mormon Church a few years ago.

  • worldtraveller
    worldtraveller

    We all should be getting on CNN's butt and tell them what is going on here. I watched that link totally from a previous thread on JW"S on google. It explains to me some missing info. about this evil"JW" cult. Gave me an ill feeling. The CBC's 5th estate really should investigate this garbage as well.

  • Mum
    Mum

    Maybe Jeffs changed the story to make Chuck Berry a homosexual because of this part of Berry's checkered past (from Wikipedia):

    In December 1959, after scoring a string of hit songs and while touring often, Berry had legal problems after he invited a 14-year-old Apache waitress whom he met in Mexico to work as a hat check girl at Berry's Club Bandstand, his nightclub in St. Louis. After being fired from the club, the girl was arrested on a prostitution charge and Berry was arrested under the Mann Act. Berry was convicted, fined $5,000, and sentenced to five years in prison.

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