Gods Org. now and then...a history of sure abandonment

by oompa 6 Replies latest jw friends

  • oompa
    oompa

    I have read this nice letter to the BOE reposted by Eclipse, and there is something briefly mentioned at the beginning of it I find interesting:

    Indications are that Jehovah may have removed his spirit from the organization as he did to his people in ancient times.

    Should people ever "cling" to those who say God is using them?...Adam and Eve. Adam was the first prophet, and I guess since they were the only ones around, they were his people. They lost Gods spirit and Blessing. What if everyone on earth kept saying "we must listen to Adam and Ever, they are Gods mouthpiece?"

    Later, God uses Moses to establish Isreal as Gods people and then later, same as Adam and Eve, they too lost Gods Spirit and Blessing. Many people still believe it today, others say they are mislead.

    What about Christianity? It is still around, but not in the same form as it was established. The great Apostacy was fortold, and so does this mean Christianity was also abandoned by God? It seems eventually, if he holds true to form, wouldn't the FDS be abandoned??.....oompa

  • oompa
    oompa

    I know.....I've been totally shot down.....So is history not being repeated by God????....help me out here.....oompa

  • Happy Harvester
    Happy Harvester

    "History doesn't repeat. It rhymes." -Mark Twain

  • JK666
    JK666

    Does this mean that God has conditional love? I believe so.

    Is there anything but conditional love? He!! if I know.

    Does it mean that God will dump those that he chooses when he wants to? Maybe

    I am full of answers tonight.

    JK

  • zack
    zack

    I understand your pain, man. My problem with God, isnt God--- it's the a**holes that pretend to speak for Him.

  • Watkins
    Watkins
    My problem with God, isnt God--- it's the a**holes that pretend to speak for Him.

    Ditto. It spans all religions, while in every religion and every walk of life you'll find wonderful people, you'll also find horrible people. As we know, all the wonderful ones aren't gathered under the JW banner, nor are all the horrible ones. People are just people. Whenever you gather with others, someone can make you feel good to be a part of it, and someone can make you think twice about it. Balance is hard to find when so many are off-kilter --- makes being off-balance the norm! It's like a fun house of mirrors, minus the fun.

    Think about it, oompa --- just because they claim it's the ONLY TRUE religion doesn't make it so. I'd say the proof shows otherwise. For God to remove Hs blessing, He would've first had to have bestowed it. Looking at the history, I don't think the benefaction ever happened. Wishful thinking & good intentions imho, but it went terribly wrong & they were/are too proud to ever admit it.

    I pray for the hostage hearts to be freed.....

    watkins

  • JK666
    JK666

    And now, let's break into a hymn for those of us that are not fans of organized religion: FRANK ZAPPA - HEAVENLY BANK ACCOUNT

    And if these words you do not heed
    Your pocket book just kinda might recede
    When some man comes along and claims a godly need
    He will clean you out right through your tweed

    That's right, remember there is a big difference between
    kneeling down and bending over...

    He's got twenty million dollars
    In his Heavenly Bank Account.. .
    All from those chumps who was
    Born again
    Oh yeah, oh yeah
    He's got seven limousines
    And a private plane...
    All for use of his
    Special Friends
    Oh yeah, oh yeah
    He's got thousand-dollar suits
    And a Wembley Tie...
    Girls love to stroke it
    While he's on the phone
    Oh yeah, oh yeah
    At the House of Representatives
    He's a groovy guy. . .
    When he Gives Thanks He is not alone. . .

    He is dealin'
    He is really dealin' IRS can't determine
    Where The Hook is
    It is easy with the Bible
    To pretend that
    You're in Show Biz
    They won't get him
    They will never get him
    For the naughty stuff
    That he did
    It is best in cases like this
    To pretend that
    You are stupid

    He's got Presidential Help
    All along the way
    He says the grace
    While the lawyers chew
    Oh yeah
    They sure do
    And the Governors agree to say: "He's a lovely man!"
    He makes it easier for
    Them to screw
    All of you...
    Yes, that's true!
    'Cause he helps put
    The Fear of God
    In the Common Man
    Snatchin' up money
    Everywhere he can
    Oh yeah Oh yeah
    He's got twenty million dollars
    In his Heavenly Bank Account
    You ain't got nothin', people
    You ain't got nothin', people
    You ain't got nothin', people
    Thank the man.. .oh yeah

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