Need Help Finding Author: The Catholic Bishop Who Said...

by Justitia Themis 5 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Justitia Themis
    Justitia Themis

    I need help finding the name of the Catholic bishop who is know to have said something like...If the church says black is white, I believe it.

    ..

  • betterdaze
    betterdaze

    Pretty sure that's attributed to Ignatius Loyola, founder of the Jesuits.

    ~Sue

  • AK - Jeff
    AK - Jeff

    Don't know. But I have heard of Jw's stating that if the society said that the old green Bibles were black he would believe it. Of couse they now are black, so perhaps the society would have to say they are green for him to believe it?

    Jeff

  • betterdaze
    betterdaze

    http://www.medievalchurch.org.uk/p_loyola.php

    For its external organization the order is, in some respects, as deeply indebted to its second as to its first general; but its informing spirit it received from Ignatius Loyola, and in his Exercitia Spiritualia that spirit found a most characteristic expression. The book may be described as the personal experience of the author transformed into rules, which the reader must follow in order to reach the same goal as he reached. And what is that goal? To be able, through prayers and fasts, through ascetic and spiritual exercises of the severest description, through absolute seclusion from the world and concentrated meditation, to take an irrevocable vow of obedience, - the obedience of the dead body, which has no will and no motion of its own, - the obedience of the stick, which one may take, or leave standing, just as one pleases. The obedience goes from the members to the general, and from the general to the Pope; and when the Pope says that black is white, and white black, it is the great moral glory, of the order that it is able to repeat the lie (Regulæ ad sentiendum cum Ecciesia).

  • Justitia Themis
    Justitia Themis

    Thank you Betterdays. It was Loyola.

    “We should always be disposed to believe that that which appears white is really black, if the hierarchy of the Church so decides”

    http://thinkexist.com/quotes/saint_ignatius_of_loyola/

  • Sad emo
    Sad emo
    Exercitia Spiritualia

    Is that Latin for 'spiritual excrement' then?

    (sorry, couldn't help myself)

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