US Senator seeks Televangelists Records Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland+++

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  • horrible life
    horrible life

    US Senator wants financial records from Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar, Joyce, Meyer, Paula White, and Eddie Long. It all stems from the extravagant life styles of Oral Roberts son, Richard Roberts.

    http://newsok.com/article/3165702/#

    The senator wants to know if tax dollars have been abused. He didn't request ORU university's records, because he figures all of the money is tied together, and it will all come out in the wash. I can see the dirty laundry now!!!

    There is a $23,000 toilet. and Rolls Royce's. Richard Roberts got in trouble last month, over taking his daughter on a plane trip, for some party, that cost $21,000???

    This is good,

    The Senator wants "records from Hinn. along with details of clothing, jewelry and grooming expenses paid for by his ministry or his World Healing Center Church." Daily Oklahoman.

    Hinn does always look good. (Perfect in fact) I bet is does take alot of money to look that way.

    Please tell me that the GB has some Rolls of their own. What kind of lifestyle does the GB lead. I wish they still had Beth Sarim. (or do they have something like it?????)

  • horrible life
    horrible life
    And if these donors (I would argue they're really investors, if they're sending money based on the promise of a return -- Isn't that what an investor is?) don't receive the promised "return", are they victims of investment fraud?

    This is food for thought. The above statement. I think the WTBTS is guilty, and by it's flip-flopping, is trying to get out of not only emotional fraud, but maybe legal fraud.

    http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2007/11/06/senator-plans-crackdown-on-televangelists-could-the-sec-follo/

    Senator plans crackdown on televangelists -- Could the SEC follow?

    Posted Nov 6th 2007 6:46PM by Zac Bissonnette
    Filed under: Rumors, Law, Newspapers

    Republican Senator Charles Grassley of Iowa is taking a hard look at some of the best-known televangelists in America, and wants to know whether it's right that they avoid paying any taxes while their ministries contribute immensely to their personal wealth.
    According to The Wall Street Journal (subscription required), "Mr. Grassley said his investigation was prompted by complaints from watchdog groups and others that the ministers live in multimillion-dollar homes, travel on private jets and engage in profit-making ventures from their ministries. He said the complaints raised suspicions, "but I would not make a final judgment until I get the story from the ministries."

    Among the ministries that Grassley is seeking investigation from are faith-healer Benny Hinn, Creflo Dollar, Joyce Meyer, and Kenneth Copeland.

    Hinn may be the least defensible. According to an interview with Florida Magazine in 1991, Hinn replied to a question about his ostentatious display of wealth this way: "What's the big deal, for goodness sake? What am I supposed to do, drive a Honda? ...That's not in the Bible. ... I'm sick and tired about hearing about streets of gold in heaven. I don't need gold in heaven. I got to have it now!"
    For an in-depth profile of Mr. Hinn, check out this article from D Magazine.

    But having watched a few of these late night ministrimercials, I wonder if the SEC should be taking a look to. Many of these ministers who preach the prosperity doctrine urge viewers to send in money, and promise that they will be rewarded. According to the Associated Baptist Press, "The most manipulative TV evangelists present a simple formula as well, saying God will multiply and return to the giver whatever amount is given to a particular ministry."

    Isn't that kind of like selling an unregistered security? Is there any material difference between that and a boiler room broker telling someone an obscure penny stock is going "to da moon"?

    In 1982, the Supreme Court stated in Marine Bank v. Weaver, 455 U.S. 551, that a security could be a stock, bond, option, etc., "along with the countless and variable schemes devised by those who seek the use of the money of others on the promise of profits."

    Based on that, a strong a case could be made that some of these televangelists really are selling a security when they ask viewers to "plant a seed of faith".

    And if these donors (I would argue they're really investors, if they're sending money based on the promise of a return -- Isn't that what an investor is?) don't receive the promised "return", are they victims of investment fraud?

    I'd like to see the SEC take a look at some of these infomercials -- It might be a new way to crack down on these charlatans who prey on desperate people.

  • orbison11
    orbison11

    CNN is doing an expose on this at noon pacific time,,in about 20 min

    orb

  • horrible life
    horrible life

    Thank you Orbison. I like this Senator Charles Grassley, R-Iowa. He made comments on CNN, that these people and their tax-free status, are no different than the Red Cross, or any other charitable organization. They have to be accountable. He wants records, not just the IRS records. The Senator said the IRS told them that Enron was doing fine also. Some times things are not as they seem.

    When asked if he would ask for anybody Else's records, he said no, but when these records are due, from these 6, on Dec. 7th, he would decide then. Is he going to ask for records from one of the largest property owners, the Catholic Church? Nobody has come forward with any complaints. Whistle blowers, have rights, and when a whistle blower, has a complaint, it should be looked into.

    I am thinking, about the JW's and their donate to the World Wide Fund, for example Katrina. also Not doing any charity work. Just peddling magazines.

    Any whistle blowers here???

  • kwr
    kwr

    The wrath of Jah will strike down Senator Grassley.

  • the sage
    the sage

    Could be fulfilling prophecy?

    Come I will show you the judgment upon the great harlot, who sits on many waters. Rev.17:1

    The waters that you saw, where the harlot is sitting, mean peoples and crowds and nations and tongues Rev17:15. Apparently,

    The Watchtower organization, as well as all the false religious shepherds are being exposed.

    The birds called into the great evening meal of God are doing their job.Rev.19:17,18.

    The Sage!

  • Homerovah the Almighty
    Homerovah the Almighty

    Benny Hinn is the biggest con in the religion racket of them all he was exposed in a investigative journal not too long ago

    He's originally from Canada, but now lives in a luxury mansion in southern California and drives in one of many Royal Royces

    He exploits sick people and tells them all that is needed to heal is faith in god and then grabs their money and skips town only to do the same

    somewhere else all the while staying 5 star hotels and living a life of a king.

    I hope they get this guy hang him from his testicles.

  • horrible life
    horrible life
    When asked if he would ask for anybody Else's records, he said no, but when these records are due, from these 6, on Dec. 7th, he would decide then. Is he going to ask for records from one of the largest property owners, the Catholic Church? Nobody has come forward with any complaints. Whistle blowers, have rights, and when a whistle blower, has a complaint, it should be looked into.

    Do we have any complaints?? and What is the difference in these ministries and organized religion?

    Has anyone heard of any fallout from this Senators investigation? As in, don't get into church matters?

    What are the implications to religion and churches?

  • justhuman
    justhuman

    good

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