Should Jehovah's Witnesses honestly expect people to Respect their Beliefs?

by KW13 9 Replies latest jw friends

  • KW13
    KW13

    How can Jehovah's Witnesses honestly be suprised when someone cannot keep their opinions to themselves and take Witnesses seriously when 99.9% of them are loyal to the Organization before Common Sense? (the rest of that percentage are here lol).

    Is this why the Society put so much emphasis on the joys of persecution in the name of Jehovah? Because they know that it is being done for all the 'right' reasons? (excluding violence of course)

    Also; with the latest Blood Transfusion disaster with Emma - Should she of expected her needs to be met fully in such difficult circumstances and who do you feel the blame lies with? I ask openly for both sides of this arguement. My view is, if her Religion didn't have such stupid rules in the first place that this situation wouldn't of even occur.

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    It's not about common sense. Much of religion or of people's beliefs don't seem to
    match the common sense of others.

    JW's do not respect the beliefs of others, so how should others return respect to them?

    Their magazines blast the churches and beliefs and science, especially Catholics and evolutionists.

  • Honesty
    Honesty

    Reasoning with a JW will get you nowhere fast because they have their "Faceless Diseased Slave" to obey in order to get a blessing from their demon god:

    8/1/04 Wacktower ragazine

    Page 11 paragraph 12

    With the backing of Jehovah, Moses became the spokesman for and chief organizer of the nation of Israel. He enjoyed two-way communication with God. Through a vision, he beheld "the appearance of Jehovah." (Numbers 12:7, 8; Exodus 24:10, 11) Those who recognized this humble servant and representative of God were also blessed. Similarly, we will be blessed if we recognize and obey the prophet greater than Moses, Jesus, as well as "the faithful and discreet slave" appointed by him.

  • solidergirl
    solidergirl

    The way I see it J.W don't respect other people views or religion. For example when I was out in service and would see a mormon ride by everybody got something neg to say what happen to treat others the way you would want to be treated you know. As far as Emma goes I say it was the HLC fault cause it was express to her I'm sure how Jehovah would had felt if she was to take that blood. My thing is yeah she would had gotten DA but she would still had her little family and sooner or later she could of had gotten reinstated again.

  • Borgia
    Borgia

    Some beliefs are beneficial and benign. Others are outright stupid and damaging.

    We are used to donate to causes we believe in. Whether it is buying a poppy for the british legion in support of those who sacrified their lives and/or health up untill the act of self sacrifice so others may live. We may even boycot a product to enforce a change in company or even state behavior not compliant with acceped standards of human rights.

    In cases of black and white it is easy to see the benefit and damage. The believe in the afterlife not neccessarily leads to a suicide bombing. But it helps tremendously in overcoming the fear that accompanies such an act of atrocity. Concerns about a position in the afterlife of which no one knows one proven jota about, prevails over concerns in this live.

    Like the example mentioned of ms Cough who has died as a consequence of her refusal to accept a bloodtransfusion and left a husband bereft of his wife, 2 newly born childeren bereft of their mother. She did not die over a principle to the benefit of others.

    She has died over a principle damaging to herself, her entire family and not to forget medical personel.

    In this case not only her beliefs about the afterlife probably have been into play. She was told she could only please God when she would refuse a bloodtransfusion. She has not reached such a conclusion all by herself! It is the entire structure, the organised structure that comes into play.

    By accepting that the bible is the only word of God and by accepting that certain people carry the ultimate words of God, by believing these claims without a sound body of evidence, she died. Was she free to believe whatever she wants? Is het husband free to respect her wishes, though foolish they may seem? Should these tpyes of believes be respected?

    I am inclined to say no.

    Cheers

    Borgia

  • Gill
    Gill

    Respect is a two way street!

    JWs respect no one else and expect everyone else to be killed by their god soon. So, they do not deserve any respect.

    They do nothing for the community except cause irritation!

    They demand obedience to the death for their members.

    They are totally irrational and lacking critical thinking skills......at all times.

    They are a sad bunch. We should feel pity for them, but respect is just a step too far and NOT something they should be given!

    When push comes to shove, the JWs worship a book publishing company in drag! What's respectful about that! It's just plain weird!

  • Finally-Free
    Finally-Free

    The JWs bash other religions, politics, the medical profession, education, science, the media, business, etc.

    In short, they bash everything that the watchtower society doesn't control.

    Since they claim to be well versed in the bible they should understand the scriptural concept of "reaping what they sow". As long as they freely advertise their contempt for others, they deserve nothing but contempt in return.

    W

  • buffalosrfree
    buffalosrfree

    No they shouldn't and Gill had a nice list of why not. they have absolutely no respect for other religions even when they use some of their beliefs and then incorporate them into their own. In Fact a Watchtower or an Awake in the Early 90's gave a list of all the things they had gotten from other sources. A brief moment of truth. I just can't recall when and if someone knows pls to let us know which one. I would love to get a pdf of that page or at least be able to look it up in the bound volumes.

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    If, and only if, they were to honor the beliefs of everyone else. This means not threatening people with everlasting destruction or promising something that is a blatant lie (like living forever on a paradise earth). It also means upholding the beliefs of those who were once members but have had new experiences and no longer believe in them. Which they do not.

  • LongHairGal
    LongHairGal

    How could anybody respect their beliefs??? I think many of the JWs themselves secretly feel contempt for the beliefs but they keep it to themselves.

    When I was active in the religion I felt a terrible conflict in my mind because I knew some of the attitudes and teachings didn't feel right. Now, I know they are not right.

    LHG

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