Any experiences dealing with Jw's and Barbara's Pedo CD?

AK - Jeff

Just curious if anyone has spoken with any Jw's who have seen the CD?

Jeff

carla

Mine has seen it, by seen it I mean the cover and actual cd case. Check it out? ooooh, you must be joking! 'who's she? some apostate?'

Though I must admit I am unable to get through it at the moment myself. It will make me incredibly angry and I will take it out on my jw for voluntarily joining this pedophile condoning org. Sometimes I have to filter what I read myself just keep my own sanity. But I will get through it eventually, in small doses.

One of his latest tactics if I bring up the pedophile issue is to accuse me of being molested when I was a child and by who. I was not molested by anybody. I have read so many stories and have seen the damage it does, it makes me sick. Then I ask, 'you mean to have righteous anger at the abuse of an innocent child one must have suffered the same fate? you must have experienced the same abuse or problem in life in order to have empathy for people? no answer.

AK - Jeff

Then I ask, 'you mean to have righteous anger at the abuse of an innocent child one must have suffered the same fate? you must have experienced the same abuse or problem in life in order to have empathy for people? no answer.

Very possible. Was he a Jw child?

I have a cousin who was a Jw child who was molested by a non-jw neighbor. I believe it has made lifetime effects on his security and thinking. I hope your Jw wasn't.

Jeff

carla

No, mine joined up later in life. He has no concept of what jw children go through and how their relgion stunts children.

skeeter1

I told my father about the CD. It went something like this..

Me: "Dad, did you hear about the Jehovah's Witness lawsuits in California & Oregon? It went to the California Supreme Court...and Bethel lost!"

Dad: "No, what are you talking about?"

Me: "Well, 16 or so victims of child abuse/pedophilia by Jehovah's Witness elders sued the Watchtower & won. Bethel settled out of court - rather than face this issue in court & divulge the details."

Dad: "How do you know about this?"

Me: "There is a CD that has the information on it."

Dad: "Well, you are not getting both sides of the story. I'll listen when you have both sides."

Me: "The CD has both sides. It has alot of documents filed by Bethel. Bethel knew of these criminal elders, and helped to cover it up. You know, the 'two witness rule' we spoke about."

Dad: "Look, I'm just a local pioneer. I let Bethel deal with the big problems. I'm sure Bethel did not tell these elders to abuse the kids."

Me: "Dad, their policies helped hide the abuse...so the abusers could go on. Pedophilia is in every KH. Look at Brother <name deleted> who molested his adopted daughter, her grandson, and his neice. Look at my best friend <name deleted> who was molested by her elder uncle. Everyone was told to not go to the police or to tell anyone. They could be disfellowshipped for telling us."

Dad: "Well, I have no personal knowledge that these people actually did anything. I did not see it. Besides, I knew an elder back in the 1950's who was disfellowshipped for having sex with his own daughter."

At this point, I gave up.....

TheListener

Sorry to hear that your conversation went that way Skeeter. However, you never know what is going on behind the witness facade.

What you said may resonate with your father at some point.

I've found that seeds I didn't even know I planted with my wife bear fruit at the oddest times.

KW13

My mum would simply dismiss it as apostate before i even got chance to show her, she wouldnt see anything as credible unless the governing body issued it - pretty stupid if you ask me, and sad since all i want is the best for her. Witnesses talk of discovering the truth and looking at the facts properly, mum claims she has done but how can she if she wont look at what i present?

Guest with Questions

Last Saturday my mom brought up the fact that a Catholic man had molested someone's child. At first I tried to bite my tongue because she's going through enough crap with her Elder husband. But she kept on and on and finally I told her that it went across the board; that all religions are touched by it. I believe that because the witness org and maybe the Catholic church both believe they are the only true church that God uses and both are very authoritarian that there is more likelyhood of this happening in this enviroment. One day I will show her all the information that I have.

I've found that seeds I didn't even know I planted with my wife bear fruit at the oddest times

I want to believe that one day they will put it all together and realize the truth; that they can no longer hide from it in all good concience.

candidlynuts

in a conversation with a non jw about the cd and some of the stuff i read on it.. he made the comment " why are you so shocked they were involved in coverups and settlements? you jw's think you're religion is so unique, everyone else in the world realizes you're just like everyone else. the good the bad and the ugly"

i reminded him i wasnt a jw anymore but pretty much agreed with the comment.

Burger Time

Everyone non-JW I have told about has been shocked and disgusted. I told my Mom and simply said that Barbara let the court documents speak for themselves and that was that. I think I have planted the seeds with her and my brother.

Any experiences dealing with Jw's and Barbara's Pedo CD?

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