JW's - not approved for good work of any sort?

moshe

"They publicly declare they know God, but they disown him by their works, because they are detestable and disobedient and not approved for good work of any sort. "(Titus 1:16)

The average person doesn't care what message JW's are preaching at their door as their bad works and lack of good works has made them unapproved to preach any message of salvation. To the credit of most JW's, they attempt to live a moral life according to the rules and dogma of the WT Society, but they fail to listen to their own conscience or to the collective moral conscience of the world. Otherwise, they would have left the KH a long time ago.

The NBC news story on the JW pedophile scandal will make it nearly impossible for a JW to bring any sheep into the KH. It does not matter how great JW's think they are, for if 99% of the public views them in a negative light they will be unable to find anyone to listen to their message. God wouldn't use a gutter religion to spread any message of good news.

What else hurts a JW's image today? How have they been disobedient?

zack

The ex-witnesses will continue to work against the WTS agenda. Not by picketing conventions, etc.... but by telling the "truth".

Jesus said a man's own words would condemn him. Former witnesses needn't make up anything, exaggerate anything, embellish anything.... they simply

have to use the WTS's own words to expose them for what they are.

Brother Apostate

"Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers, not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the day of the Lord has already come. Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for (that day will not come) until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God." -2 Thessalonians 2:1-4

The "Governing Body", who proclaim that they alone are the "Faithful and Discreet Slave", and who unscripturaly set themselves up as "mediator" between Christ and the "other sheep", ultimately attempt to usurp Christ's position as mediator, and therefore install themselves on His throne, and to be God's "sole channel of truth", "proclaiming themselves to speak for God", and by inference, being one of those who the Bible defines as "the man of lawlessness".

However, they are not alone in being part of "the man of lawlessness", by any means.

BA- My two pence.

WTWizard

The pedophile scandal sure makes for one crappy work. There are other acts that are detestable and/or disobedient. One is banning celebrating Christmas on the grounds of worshiping the sun (Luke 2:10-14 explicitly describes the angels celebrating Christmas, and there wasn't another spate of demons following that incident). The Pharisee-like insistence on obeying rules is another. Banning college and education is very short-sighted, and results in more Welfare cases in the future. Wasting all the resources and polluting with the message is going to cause some more problems.

Besides this, they ruin children's lives. People are told not to associate with those outside in the world. Children as young as 2 are showcased in field circus. Play time is usurped. They keep children from after-school activities. They want children in school to be up past their reasonable bedtimes on school nights for those boasting sessions. There is nothing to differentiate the different seasons in their lives. Spankings and beatings are commonplace because children are supposed to sit still at a boring meeting for 2 hours at a time. Normal activities are suspicious. To me, this is just as despicable as the sexual abuse that also happens (too bad ABC and CBS couldn't air a news report about that one).

jgnat

I don't know how Witnesses get past Matthew 7, 19:21, 25:41-46, Luke 14:13, Acts 6 and 1 Cor 13:3. Are these not all good works (caring for the injured, the sick, and the poor) and if absent, the so-called "believer" is absent of charity?