Good things = Praise God, Bad things Diss Him.....

LouBelle

I've got a "christian" friend - he's been having a hellofa time - His wife left him about 2 years ago, sued for custody, the wife gives him a hard time about seeing his kid and a whole lot of other things that I won't bore you with.

He know questions Gods' existance, simply because God hasn't waved his wand and sorted out his problems. He keeps quoting scripture and I keep telling him not to take everything so literally in the bible....He is cross with God and of course ranting and raving.

I keep trying to tell him that 1. Sometimes nonsense does just happen and it has nothing to do with God. 2. If he truly were christian he would follow God simply so things can go well with him. 3. To praise and thank God even when the going is rough.

I know it's difficult to ""keep the faith"" as it were, if you are under trials and tribulations - I just find that a lot of christians I've met have faith that is conditional. If I'm blessed I'll praise my god. But if not, well then woe is me and I shall be cross and rant and rave.

mouthy

HI LOU! good thought

I found out this weekend I am a disciple in fact..... but an Atheist in action...I ask then wonder if it will be done instead of saying Thank you KNOWING it will be granted in the way GOD wants.

changeling

Or maybe good stuff and s--t just happen and nobody is directly responsible???

Or maybe a person works really hard towards a goal, follows a sensible plan, and reaps the rewards?

And maybe sometimes people screw up and bad stuff happens to them?

Maybe, to extent of things that are within our control, we are responsible for our own destiny?

I grew up hearing witnesses praise Jehovah for their success and curse Satan for their misfortune. But if you had any intimate knowledge of the person and their way of life you could see they were the catalysts of the outcome.

changeling (puting in my2cents)

bigmouth

Yes Lou, I've found that people will praise God and condemn him arbitrarily.

The fact that good and bad things will happen to good and bad people indicates to me that God has little interest in getting involved.

We're on our own.

jaguarbass

What do you need a god for, if he's not going to bless and take care of you? Life is difficult enough without the baggage of immaginary friends.

And if you cant take the bible litterally and seriously where would you ever get the idea there was a jesus except from tradition handed down by previous religions which all point to him being the sun and the 12 apostles being the 12 months of the years or phases of the sun in relation to the earth.

Gretchen956

Stuff happens, god isn't sitting up there just watching over one person and directing that no disaster or bad thing should ever happen to them. Why else when the tornado is coming and everyone is praying to have it pass on by, does it hit one neighborhood and not another? Why aren't we all wrapped in bubble wrap and protected from all harm?

I went through rough times in my life, which includes abuse from witness parents, and a lot of other things, which made me who I am today. It builds character and it makes you stronger. But ONLY if you stop being a victim. (and by now I'm quite the character)

So people can blame god or they can blame their parents or they can blame society or they can blame whoever they want to. Or they can get on with their life and get to making good choices. I don't see this as a christian thing, I see it as a human trait that some people just want someone to blame.

Sherry

LouBelle

I had type a reply back and then my pee cee froze and had to be restarted .... okay **thinking hard**

Changeling - I actually agree with you - I do think that stuff does just happen & people just give that up to praising God anyway - classic example (which actually makes me laugh) The world cup rugby - We won the World Cup and our captain thanks god for the victory - um actually god doesn't care one way or the other - it was your hard work and strategy that paid off - so you can apply that to many things.

jaguarbass - as you can see I believe in God - I don't believe in how christianity view him or stuff like that - a lot of the things I say to christians don't sit well with them and border on their so called blasphemy. And we're big enough and ugly enough to look after ourselves....however I still believe in god.

Like I initially said when the going is good, main stream christians give praise to go and thank him for blessing them, when it's not going so well - then they cross at him or they blame the devil - they don't look to themselves.....

I had also typed out a whole thing about Satan sitting by the side of the road and getting cursed when some mans' tired bursts and the christ getting praised when someone stops to help the man change the tyre - when in fact neither had anything to do with it (short version)

Dansk

Hi ((((((((((Louise))))))))))

If someone believes in God and it makes them happy and they are decent people I don't have a problem. Problems start - and it doesn't just apply to Christianity - when people believe they alone have the truth and may even try and foister their beliefs onto others.

I believe we're all walking the same path but we just don't know it - be it via one's religious, spiritual or atheistic beliefs. The end result is the same whether one believes in God or not or even in karma.

Yes, when things go well God gets praise. When things go bad some may blame God, but I rather think more blame Satan - so God can't lose.

For what it's worth, I don't believe in coincidences.

Love,

Ian

zack

Perhaps the reason an all loving, benevolent god seemingly permits so much suffering is because he simply doesn't exist.

eclipse

I believe we're all walking the same path but we just don't know it - be it via one's religious, spiritual or atheistic beliefs. The end result is the same whether one believes in God or not or even in karma.

I believe this as well.

Good things = Praise God, Bad things Diss Him.....

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