For those who believe....in the beginning there was only one stipulation

by restrangled 9 Replies latest jw friends

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  restrangled

  It was (don't eat from this tree). I think most of us could abide by that rule with no problem. Personally I would love that chance.

  But organized religion has turned it into a labrianth of rules with sub rules that are almost impossible to follow. From the way we think to to what happens in the marriage bed. Organized religion tries to dictate your underwear to the car you drive.

  I don't think this is what God intended. I am so tired of hearing the latest light from the newest watchtower writers. I am tired of hearing about the old crap too.

  I wonder if as xjws......we can ever let all this go and not care what the "FDS" has to say, or what any church has to say.

  Personally, I am sick of it, and wish my family in..... could let go, but I have become too worn out to care anymore.

  How do you feel?

  r
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  Abandoned

  Umm, the only thing I care about that comes out of the mouths of the governing body is whether the vomit is a sign of something fatal...
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  sspo

  If that's the way you're feeling, it's not a bad idea taking a break from JWD. The less you know, the better.

  Solomon said that " In the abbundance of wisdom there is frustration".

  Give your mind a rest.
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  jaguarbass

  Personally, I am sick of it, and wish my family in..... could let go, but I have become too worn out to care anymore.

  My thoughts are,

  The only one you can control is yourself in this world. You are wearing yourself out trying to control what someone else thinks.

  I think you need to do to your family what they did to you.

  Write them off.

  Once you forget about them, you will find rebirth and energy.

  Down the road they may or may not see the light.
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  restrangled

  SSPO...I guess you are right....

  If that's the way you're feeling, it's not a bad idea taking a break from JWD. The less you know, the better

  r.
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  nvrgnbk

  Agreed, r.

  Total JWism burn-out.
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  Carmel

  Your handle suggests that you are "choked" by what you correctly percieve as inappropriate intrusion into our lives by the JW heirarchy. I would caution you to not be too inclusive in your condemnation about religion in general as there are several "orgnized" religions that do not impose the burdens of laws on their adherents. Off hand specifically the Quakers, Unitarian Universalists and Bahai's are very much into proscribing principals and teachings that are left up to the individual to inculcate into their personal lives, or not! In the case of the latter, 99% of the Baha'i laws are focused on administrative guidelines, not personal conduct. In other words, it addresses collective behavior much more than individual do's and don'ts. A very liberating and empowering way to live. carmel
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  Hortensia

  well, I agree, religion is about control. In the beginning was a teacher, and the teacher (you pick one, there have been a lot of wise teachers) taught wisely, and his followers made rules and their followers made rules about the rules.
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  flipper

  RESTRANGLED- I understand how you feel about getting burned out on hearing the witnesses alleged " new light " . I too, was raised in this junk for 44 years, got out 4 years ago. But, like you, I have family still in, and the only reason I like to stay somewhat informed by being on sites like JWD is that it helps me see how the " pulse " of the organization is going from the outside, to see if the child abuse scandals, blood transfusion scandals, or anything else is slowly bringing this organization to a grinding halt. My ultimate wish and prayer ! ( And I don't even pray ! ) So that is the reason I keep an eye out on things. I want to eventually help my daughters 20 and 19, get out of this mind controlling cult , but like every good chess player, and I do play chess, I want to know what I'm dealing with , so as to assist my daughters in time . I am TOTALLY over being a witness, so it does not bother me discussing things pertaining to it , just with the motive to help some escape, even newbies on JWD ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  WTWizard

  The only stipulations or rules that are really necessary are:

  You shall not initiate the use of force, threat of force, coercion, or fraud against another individual or their property.

  If everyone on the planet did that, there would be no need for additional rules. All the millions of do's and don'ts would not exist. Even in the Bible itself, many of the rules are spurious since consensual fornication is not initiatory force or fraud against either partner. Such acts as murder, rape, robbery and fraud would all automatically be outlawed. All you would need think about is: Is this action initiating force, threat of force, coercion, or fraud against another person or their property? If it is, then it is infringing on that person's rights. If not, then there is nothing wrong with doing it.

  For sure, the Witlesses would never simplify their arrangements to this extent. They talk so much about simplification, but this would be the ultimate. No more "Quiet" and "Keep Moving" signs. No more judicial hearings because the hounders saw the Christmas tree. No more being shunned by your parents because you did not want to support a corrupt organization. No more Worldwide Pedophile Defense Fund or fake deficits (which are the result of initiatory fraud). No more worrying about stumbling someone. No more worrying about watching a R-rated movie or listening to rap music. I'm sure that, under that arrangement, things would be so simplified that more people would be willing to reach out for "privileges" that would be much less burdensome. But it also means less control, which is why I don't think they will ever simplify that much.